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JoeyFantastic
16th-August-2010, 11:50
Leamy, Ryan & Dowling Back in Action.
16 August 2010, 1:08 pmBy The Editor
Denis Leamy, Donnacha Ryan, Ian Dowling as well as
squad newcomers Wian du Preez and Sam Tuitupou are all
included in the Munster squad for Friday's seasonal opener
against Leicester Tigers in Musgrave Park (7pm).
Leamy has been out of action since undergoing a knee
operation in the aftermath of his impressive display against
Perpignan in December while Ryan has been out since
February following a shoulder operation and Dowling
missed the last games of the season with a knee injury.
All three are in La Manga coming to the end of a week long
training camp - they are scheduled to return home
tomorrow - that according to coach Tony McGahan has
proved hugely beneficial. " In terms of preparation, the
facility here in La Manga has been excellent and we've
managed to get in quality core rugby work along with
valuable organisational matters." he said today speaking
during a break in training."

McGahan named a 26 strong squad for the opening pre-
season friendly saying, " Leicester Tigers on Friday and
Gloucester provides us with the ideal opponents ahead of
the competitive start to the season."

"The game against Leicester on Friday will see the return to
action of players such as Donnacha Ryan, Denis Leamy and
Ian Dowling who missed large parts of last season through
injury. We would also expect to see newcomers Sam
Tuitupou and Wian du Preez continue their integration into
the squad while the opportunity will also arise to expose
some of the young talent coming through to top class
opposition."

That young talent that McGahan mentions includes among
others, Ian Nagle, Dave Foley, Dave Ryan, Mike Sherry,
Peter O'Mahony who impressed in the British & Irish Cup
campaign last season, Ireland Under 20 World Cup players
Paddy Butler and Simon Zebo and Academy newcomer
Corey Hircock recently arrived from Bedford.

Munster Squad: Denis Hurley, Felix Jones, Ian Dowling,
Danny Barnes, Simon Zebo, Scott Deasy, Sam Tuitupou,
Corey Hircock, Paul Warwick, Duncan Williams, Conor
Murray, Wian du Preez, Dave Ryan, Stephen Archer,
Darragh Hurley, Mike Sherry, Denis Fogarty, Billy Holland,
Dave Foley, Ian Nagle, Donnacha Ryan, Paddy Butler,
Tommy O'Donnell, Peter O'Mahony, James Coughlan, Denis
Leamy.

JoeyFantastic
16th-August-2010, 11:52
Looks awesome, I mean, weak

Cervidave
16th-August-2010, 11:54
Looks great smileys/thumb-up.gif

JoeyFantastic
16th-August-2010, 11:56
So no Gleeson, Mafi or B. Murphy, are they injured or being
rested?

Disappointed to see no Cusack, presume Deasy is outhalf
cover?

Cervidave
16th-August-2010, 12:01
It'll be a tough test for such a young team. Many of these lads won't get a better chance to impress this season so they'll need to make the most fo it.

Drick
16th-August-2010, 12:21
It's Great to see Felix Jones named in the squad too.

deise_prop
16th-August-2010, 12:30
Woo-hoo - Now that the hurling is over, I'm a rugby fan again, was undecided about going Friday, now I'm decided - Day off Friday, thank you very much

soccer rules
16th-August-2010, 12:30
great to see ryan and leamy back, hopefully leamy can find the form he showed befoe injury.

overthehillprop
16th-August-2010, 12:38
So no Gleeson, Mafi or B. Murphy, are they injured or being
rested?

Disappointed to see no Cusack, presume Deasy is outhalf
cover?





Mafi had a shoulder injury that required an op in the off season. He was due to the miss the start of the season. Haven't heard of a possiblereturn date yet.

Upfront_1979
16th-August-2010, 12:40
is this televised anywhere?

Mebawsa Ritchie
16th-August-2010, 13:04
is this televised anywhere?

No

JoeyFantastic
16th-August-2010, 13:05
So no
Gleeson, Mafi or B. Murphy, are they injured or being rested?
Disappointed to see no Cusack, presume Deasy is outhalf
cover?


*


Mafi had a shoulder injury that required an op in the off
season. He was due to the miss the start of the season.
Haven't heard of a possible*return date yet.

Interesting, with Earls possibly/probably out too it could be a
good chance for guys like like Gleeson and Barnes.

soccer rules
16th-August-2010, 13:25
is anyone else really optimistic about munsters futher? looking at some of the young lads in that squad, i think it is very imressive

sewa
16th-August-2010, 13:39
This isthe Tigers side that played Nottingham last week. I am not all that confident I must say


15 Scott Hamilton
14 Horacio Agulla
13 Matt Smith
12 Billy Twelvetrees
11 Alesana Tuilagi
10 Jeremy Staunton
9 James Grindal
1 Boris Stankovich
2 Tom Youngs
3 Julian White
4 Calum Green
5 Ed Slater
6 Ben Pienaar
7 Ben Woods (c)
8 Thomas Waldrom


Replacements
16 Charlie Clare
17 Martin Castrogiovanni
18 Ryan Bower
19 Matt Everard
20 Dave Markham
21 Sam Harrison
22 George Ford
23 Will Hurrell
24 Lee Robinson
25 Anthony Allen
26 Stephen Macauley

JoeyFantastic
16th-August-2010, 13:42
This is*the Tigers side that played
Nottingham last week. I am not all that confident I must
say


About a one off friendly or about our future?

We'll probably lose on Friday but I think we have serious
talent coming through, not massive numbers, but enough.

sewa
16th-August-2010, 13:56
This isthe Tigers side that played
Nottingham last week. I am not all that confident I must
say





About a one off friendly or about our future?

We'll probably lose on Friday but I think we have serious
talent coming through, not massive numbers, but enough.


Both actually. We have some potential coming throughbut the best sides in Europe have recruited proven talent. Tigers signed the following listHoracio Agulla, Pete Bucknall, Rob Hawkins, Lee Robinson, George Skivington and Thomas Waldrom. All well up to GP standard or better

16th-August-2010, 14:13
Well if we don't get our players onto the pitch we're never
going to know what standard they are. There's plenty of
knocking of the rest period for the internationals but at
least this means we can't see them flogged forever. The
issue then is if someone, for example Butler or Da Hurley,
gets on the
park and plays well in the pre season friendlies, are they
going to be persevered with or are these games just going
to be a run out for returning "first teamers" with others just
there to make up the numbers?

I really hope if someone does stand up to be counted in
these games they do get a chance to continue that
progress into ML season.

dropkick
16th-August-2010, 15:12
Some young players will have to be given enough gametime
this season to get used to playing at a higher level than
they're used to. At least then when the retirements come in
the next few years there'll be some players up to speed and
with some experiance which should make the transition of
lowering the average age go much smoother.

JoeyFantastic
16th-August-2010, 15:29
This is*the Tigers side that played Nottingham last week.
I am not all that confident I must say


About a one off friendly or about our future?
We'll probably lose on Friday but I think we have serious
talent coming through, not massive numbers, but enough.



Both actually. We have some potential coming
through*but the best sides in Europe have recruited proven
talent. Tigers signed the following list*Horacio Agulla, Pete
Bucknall, Rob Hawkins, Lee Robinson, George Skivington
and Thomas Waldrom. All well up to GP standard or
better

we don't have to take our league as seriously though, and
we have to provide International players, so we'll never be
able to purchase a squad the way other teams can.

Right now it's crucial to get our newer backrowers ahead of
guys like Quinlan and Wallace.

masterchief
16th-August-2010, 15:34
Who the hell is Corey Hircock and how did I miss his signing?

JoeyFantastic
16th-August-2010, 15:35
Who the hell is Corey Hircock and how
did I miss his signing?

He's the future

or

He's an exile from Bedford who was signed up to our
Academy after impressing for the Irish u19's against Oz in
Musgrave, iirc.

rathbaner
16th-August-2010, 16:21
I have to say I'm very optimistic about the future. This is what rebuilding a team looks like. And there's proven class in that bunch too.

Whether it's enough to win a HEC in a RWC year is another matter but I'd say we can at least feel confident that our standards will be maintained -- even though half the squad will be likely be out for more than half the season.

For Munster or Leinster to do well in the HEC this year will be a big ask given how much DK will have our top players, so it's timely to be looking further ahead then just this season.

Quailman
16th-August-2010, 16:52
Both actually. We have some potential coming throughbut the best sides in Europe have recruited proven talent. Tigers signed the following listHoracio Agulla, Pete Bucknall, Rob Hawkins, Lee Robinson, George Skivington and Thomas Waldrom. All well up to GP standard or better

So? Of those, only Aguila, Skivington and Waldrom are HEC quality, and Waldrom would be the only one who would likely get in our match-day 22.

Leicester are very likely to field a strong team this Friday, and likely to win, but they'll be missing 3 or 4 players, we'll be missing 16 or 17.

Quailman
16th-August-2010, 16:58
Some young players will have to be given enough gametime
</span><br style="font-weight: bold;">this season to get used to playing at a higher level than
</span><br style="font-weight: bold;">they're used to.</span> At least then when the retirements come in

the next few years there'll be some players up to speed and

with some experiance which should make the transition of

lowering the average age go much smoother.

You say that, but even if you take out our likely internationals we could field a team of:

WdP, Fogarty, Borlase, MOD, Holland, Quinlan, Ronan, Coughlan, Stringer, Warwick, Dowling, Tuitupo, Mafi, Howlett and J Murphy

That isn't exactly forward thinking, and based on how conservative McGahan usually is, I reckon it is fairly close to the side we will see take the field for much of the ML season.

Though I would love the likes of Ryan, Hurley, Foley, Nagle, POM, TOD, Butler, Williams, Murray, Cusack and Jones all to see a load of starts.

sewa
16th-August-2010, 17:00
We will see how many they are missing when they name their squad. Also Skivington and Waldrom are only complementing a pack that is better than ours on last seasons form.

Cathal
16th-August-2010, 17:06
Will we have a match tracker thread and an intrepid reporter?

Quailman
16th-August-2010, 17:06
We will see how many they are missing when they name their squad. Also Skivington and Waldrom are only complementing a pack that is better than ours on last seasons form. </span>

Both are going to be first choice for them. With Kay gone, Skivington will line up with Parling, and Waldrom is a much better player than Crane.

Also, their pack is good, but it would be entirely incapable of coming close to out Perpignan performance.

Justtoby
16th-August-2010, 17:29
26 Stephen Macauley
Does anybody know if this is the same Stephen Macauley who was playing for the Ireland schools team last year having been so impressive for Clongowes?

bosh12
16th-August-2010, 17:41
26 Stephen Macauley
Does anybody know if this is the same Stephen Macauley who was playing for the Ireland schools team last year having been so impressive for Clongowes?



15 wasnt he? Think it is. Defo was on the Irish under 18 panel last year, scored a great try in final against Michaels

JoeyFantastic
16th-August-2010, 17:47
26 Stephen MacauleyDoes anybody
know if this is the same Stephen Macauley who was playing
for the Ireland schools team last year having been so
impressive for Clongowes?

Would be a strange co-incidence if it wasn't. Leinster's a bit of
a fullback factory atm.

dropkick
16th-August-2010, 17:54
Denis Hurley, Felix Jones, Ian Dowling,
Danny Barnes, Simon Zebo, Scott Deasy, Sam Tuitupou,
Corey Hircock, Duncan Williams, Conor Murray, Wian du
Preez, Stephen Archer, Darragh Hurley, Mike Sherry, Dave
Foley, Ian Nagle, Donnacha Ryan, Paddy Butler, Tommy
O'Donnell, Peter O'Mahony, Denis Leamy.

All those players got very little if any game time in the
second part of last season. Add in POC coming back and
the squad looks to be the strongest ever.

Justtoby
16th-August-2010, 17:58
26 Stephen Macauley
Does anybody know if this is the same Stephen Macauley who was playing for the Ireland schools team last year having been so impressive for Clongowes?



15 wasnt he? Think it is. Defo was on the Irish under 18 panel last year, scored a great try in final against Michaels
He played 15 for his school and on the wing for Ireland. I think he played a bit at outside centre too but I'm open to correction. He seems to have featured quite a bit for Leicester's sevens team this summer.

Lenden
16th-August-2010, 20:34
will tickets be available at the gate&gt; and how much are they
likely to cost?

Babs (was bthequin)
16th-August-2010, 21:01
No Quinnie?

JoeyFantastic
16th-August-2010, 21:09
No Quinnie?

We need to replace him sometime Babs.

No Bother
16th-August-2010, 21:14
No Quinnie?

We need to replace him sometime Babs. Shame on you joey, smileys/sad.gifbeen building up to it for awhile but it's still hard to take

JoeyFantastic
16th-August-2010, 21:16
No Quinnie? We need to replace him
sometime Babs. Shame on you joey, smileys/sad.gif*been
building up to it for awhile but it's still hard to take

I know it hurts but you need to steel yourself for the
inevitable. If guys like Holland, TOD and POM don't come
through we're goosed.

Ruckuss
16th-August-2010, 21:22
Where is Johne Murphy? Sure he would have loved a crack at his old team mates?

No Bother
16th-August-2010, 21:23
No Quinnie? We need to replace him
sometime Babs. Shame on you joey, smileys/sad.gifbeen
building up to it for awhile but it's still hard to take

I know it hurts but you need to steel yourself for the
inevitable. If guys like Holland, TOD and POM don't come
through we're goosed. Don't have the thighs or the good looks for me smileys/smile.gifQuinnie is a huge loss when he retires

JoeyFantastic
16th-August-2010, 21:37
Where is Johne Murphy? Sure he would
have loved a crack at his old team mates?


Kan't have a Krack due to Kamp Kidney, down with the KKKK

MunsterLux
16th-August-2010, 21:40
I'm surprised that this game isn't being televised anywhere.
2 of the most high profile teams in Europe playing against each other.

Cathal
16th-August-2010, 22:17
I'm surprised that this game isn't being televised anywhere.

2 of the most high profile teams in Europe playing against each other.

Pre-season games rarely are - Ulster had one on BBC2 NI last week but was a test run more than anything.

Waterfordlad
17th-August-2010, 02:47
Can't wait for season to get going again. Roll on Friday no matter who plays

LLCOOLJ14
17th-August-2010, 08:28
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Director of rugby Richard Cockerill says Leicester Tigers will have to speed up the way they play this season.


New interpretations of the tackle area were introduced midway through last season and they are here to stay.


That means Tigers can expect more of the quick ball that led to them scoring so many tries in the last few months of the 2009-10 campaign.


Cockerill has added new signings to his squad in a bid to make the most of the new rules and encourage his side to bring those players into the game as often as possible.
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"When Jordan Crane and Alesana Tuilagi were not playing last season, we lacked a bit of punch," he said. "But with Thomas Waldrom, Lee Robinson and Manu Tuilagi now in the set-up, we have got guys who can carry the ball across the board and that gives us more firepower.


"George Skivington carries the ball well and we have got Geoff Parling to come back, Ben Woods and Craig Newby as well. They are all good athletes within the forwards. The game is quicker, faster and more fluid now so we have to change our tack a little bit on how we play."


Cockerill said that one of his new ball-carriers showed up well during Friday's 54-7 win over Nottingham in a friendly.


Former Bristol winger Lee Robinson scored a hat-trick of tries and impressed his new boss.


"Fair play to him at 29 to come to a club where he has to fight for his place," said Cockerill.


"It is going to be a tough challenge for him with established players in his position and with Manu Tuilagi now in the mix as well.


"But he came in and pushed well. He is the big strong boy and if you get a ball in his hand, he can do some damage. We are in a good position for wingers."


Cockerill takes his team to Ireland on Friday to face Munster at Musgrave Park in Cork.


He will take with him a squad that welcomes back several players who were missing on England duty at Nottingham.


As a result, it will start to look like the squad with which Tigers will begin the defence of their title against Northampton on Sunday, September 5.


"This week we will have all of the guys back and start trimming the young guys, who will go and play with academies or loan clubs," said Cockerill.


"We will start to put things together for the start of the season. Young guys need to play. There is no point in them just training. Other clubs are doing this as well now.


"Saracens send players to Bedford, Wasps do it and Harlequins, and we have done it for several years. Other clubs are starting to follow the model."


Tigers' Heineken Cup opponents, Llanelli Scarlets, warmed up for their Magners League kick-off with a 26-6 defeat by Gloucester.</DIV>

Tobyglen
17th-August-2010, 09:14
Some excellent young guys in that squad, I hope McGahan has the foresight to start playing guys like POM, Donnacha Ryan (not that young but he has to be favoured over Micko), Dave Ryan, Deasy and Felix Jones on a regular basis.

Lenden
17th-August-2010, 09:15
Will it be a ticket at the gate job 15 euros?

Mebawsa Ritchie
17th-August-2010, 09:41
Will it be a ticket at the gate job 15 euros?

Not if it's sold out.

jeepers
17th-August-2010, 09:44
26 Stephen MacauleyDoes anybody

know if this is the same Stephen Macauley who was playing

for the Ireland schools team last year having been so

impressive for Clongowes?



Would be a strange co-incidence if it wasn't. Leinster's a bit of

a fullback factory atm.

If its the Clongowes S. McCauley, he is from Ulster (Downpatrick), not Leinster.

Call999
17th-August-2010, 09:47
Good young squad, just a bit worried that if they don't have old heads around them that the mental toughness may be lacking.

17th-August-2010, 10:04
Considering how poorly some of the old heads have been
playing it's possibly a plus to not have them to drag down the
youngsters. Let them just get out and have a real go at it.

123UCG
19th-August-2010, 10:30
On his first game back since injury in the
Heineken Cup game against Perpignan in Stade Aime Giral, Denis Leamy has
been handed the Captain's armband for Munster's seasonal opener against
Leicester Tigers in Musgrave Park tomorrow night (7pm).

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Also included in the Munster side returning from long stints on the sideline are <s&#111;ng>Darragh Hurley</s&#111;ng> and <s&#111;ng>Felix Jones</s&#111;ng> while <s&#111;ng>Ian Dowling </s&#111;ng>who missed the latter stages of last season is named on the wing.



Munster have just returned from a week long training camp at La Manga in Spain and have announced that <s&#111;ng>Paul O'Connell </s&#111;ng>will be the squad captain for the coming season.



<s&#111;ng>Munster: </s&#111;ng>S Deasy; D Hurley, D Barnes, S
Tuitupou, I Dowling; P Warwick, D Williams; W du Preez, D Fogarty, S
Archer; B Holland, D Foley; D Ryan, T O'Donnell, D Leamy <s&#111;ng>capt.</s&#111;ng>



<s&#111;ng>Replacements: </s&#111;ng>M Sherry, D Ryan, Darragh Hurley, I Nagle, J Coughlan, C Murray, C Hircock, F Jones, S Zebo, P Butler, P O'Mahony.

JoeyFantastic
19th-August-2010, 10:33
Ryan in the backrow, Holland in the second row, wtf?

sewa
19th-August-2010, 10:37
Looking fwd to seeing Tuitupou. The guy is an animal. Going to a big challenge up front against a much more experienced pack though

Ruckuss
19th-August-2010, 10:37
Shame its not being televised, would love to see it.
Would like to see Deasy and Jones play a half each

Tigers team announced yet?

sewa
19th-August-2010, 10:41
Seniors step up with two weeks till kick-off



19 August 2010, 7:55 amBy Gary Sherrard


Leicester Tigers will take "the strongest available squad" to Cork for Friday's pre-season fixture against two-time European champions Munster. Share
After matches against Brive and Notingham in the last two weeks, Tigers have just the Irish double header against Munster and then at home to Leinster left in preparation for the start of the new Aviva Premiership Rugby season on September 5.
"We look like we're in decent shape but there is a lot of work to do before we go to that first league game," said Tigers director of rugby Richard Cockerill.


"This place is built on hard work. If we do that hard work in training there is a good chance it will work on game day."


Preparing for the club's first trip to Musgrave Park since the summer of 2006, Cockerill is able to include his senior England men for the first time in the pre-season period.


"We'll take pretty much our strongest squad, whether they start or have game-time from the bench," said Cockerill.


"We've got the international players back and we have to get them integrated, get game-time throughout the squad and look at the combinations in the squad.


"We've now got two weeks left before we start the season, it is important all of the players are up to speed, get match fit and sharp. We've got two practice games left to do that and make sure we are right for the start of the season."


Louis Deacon, Lucas Amorosino, Pete Bucknall and Rob Hawkins are left out due to short-term injuries, while Richard Blaze (foot) and Geoff Parling (neck) are sidelined for the start of the season. Joe Duffey has been on compassionate leave due to a family bereavement.


Cockerill said: "It's unfortunate that Pete Bucknall picked up a bit of a groin injury and Rob Hawkins had a calf injury so we didn't want to risk him. Joe Duffey has been away, but we'll have everyone back and available for the Leinster game next weekend."


Munster coach Tony McGahan has named a 26-strong squad including Denis Leamy, Donnacha Ryan and Ian Dowling on their return from injury and newcomers Wian du Preez and Sam Tuitupou.

JoeyFantastic
19th-August-2010, 10:42
Is anyone running a match tracker? I'll be at a wedding (not
mine) and I'll miss it anyway.

JoeyFantastic
19th-August-2010, 10:44
Looking fwd to seeing Tuitupou. The guy is
an animal. Going to a big challenge up front against a much
more experienced pack though*

Our pack (which is presumably our ML pack until the Int's
return) is going to be up against alright. Hopefully Fogs has
sorted his throwing, that second row pairing looks dodgy
enough as it is. Could be a long night for Archer too.

Mebawsa Ritchie
19th-August-2010, 10:45
Last time I did that I texted so much I missed most of the game.

dropkick
19th-August-2010, 10:48
Theres some interesting selections there and it'll be interesting
to see the next few lineups in the coming weeks. They could
be experimenting a bit.

Tobyglen
19th-August-2010, 11:03
Hating that team, for me it shows that Dave Ryan, Peter O' Mahoney and Jones are going to struggle to get meaniful gametime-yes it's only pre-season but these guys needed games straight away to make an impression on these Aussie donkeys.
POM is far more talented than TOD who is average at best. Billy Holland? Decent player but we have to start playing our talented players. Dave Ryan is a very powerful scrummager who should be playing TH. Jones is a no brainer-class in abundance and a future international. Whats DR doing at 6 with Holland at lock? Will this mean MOD will be playing 5 come HEC? Good to see McGahan is continuing his ways of stifiling our best talents.
Sometimes you wonder what guys have to do to break into this bloody team. Then Archer is a piss poor scrummager and he gets a game then so this makes zero sense.

JoeyFantastic
19th-August-2010, 11:08
I don't know, dave Ryan isn't much of a tighthead, you could
argue Archer isn't much of one either, but I don't think it's
grounds for mutiny.

I would have thought POM is far weaker and less powerful
that TOD, whatever about POM's Godlike brilliance.

I agree about the Holland/Ryan/MOD circle of despair though.

mahoney
19th-August-2010, 11:09
Hating that team, for me it shows that Dave Ryan, Peter O' Mahoney and Jones are going to struggle to get meaniful gametime-yes it's only pre-season but these guys needed games straight away to make an impression on these Aussie donkeys.
POM is far more talented than TOD who is average at best. Billy Holland? Decent player but we have to start playing our talented players. Dave Ryan is a very powerful scrummager who should be playing TH. Jones is a no brainer-class in abundance and a future international. Whats DR doing at 6 with Holland at lock? Will this mean MOD will be playing 5 come HEC? Good to see McGahan is continuing his ways of stifiling our best talents.
Sometimes you wonder what guys have to do to break into this bloody team. Then Archer is a piss poor scrummager and he gets a game then so this makes zero sense.


And so our season begins!!!!!! Calm down Toby tis only our first game wouldnt read into that selection too much

lactose intolerant
19th-August-2010, 12:01
new season, same old tobyglen POM man-crushsmileys/wink.gif

bosh12
19th-August-2010, 12:12
Its a preseason match, get over it. There is a few more games for them to get experience. If they are good enough, they'll break through. Felix had a fairly serious injury, he wont be rushed.

Cervidave
19th-August-2010, 12:15
Its a preseason match, get over it. There is a few more games for them to get experience. If they are good enough, they'll break through. Felix had a fairly serious injury, he wont be rushed.

Dead Right

Cowboy
19th-August-2010, 12:38
Always get the jitters about pre-season matches, ground very
very hard and fella's still not fully match fit. Last thing we
need is a few more unnecessary injuries for the sake of a
nothing result. Lets start prudently and give everyone a short
burst over the coming weeks. Plenty time to be blooding
players when we're stuck looking for numbers through injuries
like last year.

If Deccie really is going to cotton wool our first 15 essentially,
then Mcgahan will have no choice but to run out the
newbie's. This could be a really really great year for the
province. I for one cant wait to see how it all pans out.

Raging Bullock
19th-August-2010, 12:41
McGahan knows Jones is likely to feature a lot this season if he stays fit. the young pretenders should rightly be thrown into this game. the worrying selection is ryan at 6. puzzling to say the least given POCs injury.

Cowboy
19th-August-2010, 12:50
Wouldn't be at all surprised to see Ryan going into the second
row in the second half. There'll be subs aplenty tomorrow
night. 6 Bear 7 POM 8 Butler in the backrow would be an
interesting way to finish the game

galinka
19th-August-2010, 13:40
plenty of rain in Cork today - at least help to take some of the concrete feel from the pitch.

ozman51
19th-August-2010, 16:46
Radio coverage??

Allez Les Rouges
19th-August-2010, 17:01
Think the fact that there are so many forward subs suggest that all will get a shot. There are three back row subs and just one second row. This suggest that Ryan will move into secondrow later in game.It is a make or break year for Tommy O'Donnell and I do think he has to get first crack ahead of POM who does look a little light. Again all the front row will be changed and Darragh and Dave Ryan will get a run out with Mike Sherry. This could be the future Munster front row, with a low average current age.As the posters say, there are a number of these preseason games and all will get their chances.


McGahon will get his head "melted" with so many advisors on this site! I think he should be applauded for giving Barnes a shot at outside centre. Also I believe that Felix has to be eased back. But remember the wonder try he got in this fixture last year at Welford Road! Its an opportunity to see some of the arrivals and some of those who played little rugby last year because of injury -- Ryan, Leamy, Felix, Dowling, Hurley etc.


He is also looking at options and combinations. but is there a suggestion that Foley has crept ahead of Nagle as the young second row contender. Last year Nagle would have got games in the warm ups, AFAIK.

dailywaffle
19th-August-2010, 17:32
<DIV id=post_message_3568963>Leicester Tigers director of rugby Richard Cockerill has named a 28-man squad to take to Cork tomorrow for the friendly with Munster.

Tigers (from): Agulla, Allen, Ayerza, Castrogiovanni, Chuter, Cole, Crane, Croft, Flood, Green, Grindal, Hamilton, Harrison, Hipkiss, Murphy, Newby, Pienaar, Robinson, Skivington, Smith, Stankovich, Staunton, A Tuilagi, Twelvetrees, Waldrom, White, Woods, B Youngs

With Blaze and Parling long-term injured and Deacon still struggling with his back, Leicester are looking thin at lock. </DIV>

sewa
19th-August-2010, 17:36
Thats one serious looking squad. I assume we are looking at Stan at 10?

dailywaffle
19th-August-2010, 17:37
Thats one serious looking squad. I assume we are looking at Stan at 10?


I would think so, with Flood getting a run-out from the bench.

Tobyglen
19th-August-2010, 17:41
Hating that team, for me it shows that Dave Ryan, Peter O' Mahoney and Jones are going to struggle to get meaniful gametime-yes it's only pre-season but these guys needed games straight away to make an impression on these Aussie donkeys.
POM is far more talented than TOD who is average at best. Billy Holland? Decent player but we have to start playing our talented players. Dave Ryan is a very powerful scrummager who should be playing TH. Jones is a no brainer-class in abundance and a future international. Whats DR doing at 6 with Holland at lock? Will this mean MOD will be playing 5 come HEC? Good to see McGahan is continuing his ways of stifiling our best talents.
Sometimes you wonder what guys have to do to break into this bloody team. Then Archer is a piss poor scrummager and he gets a game then so this makes zero sense.


And so our season begins!!!!!! Calm down Toby tis only our first game wouldnt read into that selection too much

This is exactly how last season started and ended with strange and dubious selections, why is he playing players out of position and not giving our young exciting players a lash. I truly despair at McGahan sometimes.
Everyone on here knows DR should be playing lock. MOD won't win us anything-honest as day is long but not powerful enough.

munsterforever
19th-August-2010, 17:58
Leicester by at least 25. Anything less would be an excellent result

dailywaffle
19th-August-2010, 18:05
Leicester by at least 25. Anything less would be an excellent result


In a pre-season match? I can't see it being that one-sided, especially with Leicester's problems at hooker and lock.

The Outlaw
19th-August-2010, 19:04
Hating that team, for me it shows that Dave Ryan, Peter O' Mahoney and Jones are going to struggle to get meaniful gametime-yes it's only pre-season but these guys needed games straight away to make an impression on these Aussie donkeys.
POM is far more talented than TOD who is average at best. Billy Holland? Decent player but we have to start playing our talented players. Dave Ryan is a very powerful scrummager who should be playing TH. Jones is a no brainer-class in abundance and a future international. Whats DR doing at 6 with Holland at lock? Will this mean MOD will be playing 5 come HEC? Good to see McGahan is continuing his ways of stifiling our best talents.
Sometimes you wonder what guys have to do to break into this bloody team. Then Archer is a piss poor scrummager and he gets a game then so this makes zero sense.



Hard to disagree with any of that. That backline wouldn't create a try playing tag rugby.

The Outlaw
19th-August-2010, 19:13
Hating that team, for me it shows that Dave Ryan, Peter O' Mahoney and Jones are going to struggle to get meaniful gametime-yes it's only pre-season but these guys needed games straight away to make an impression on these Aussie donkeys.
POM is far more talented than TOD who is average at best. Billy Holland? Decent player but we have to start playing our talented players. Dave Ryan is a very powerful scrummager who should be playing TH. Jones is a no brainer-class in abundance and a future international. Whats DR doing at 6 with Holland at lock? Will this mean MOD will be playing 5 come HEC? Good to see McGahan is continuing his ways of stifiling our best talents.
Sometimes you wonder what guys have to do to break into this bloody team. Then Archer is a piss poor scrummager and he gets a game then so this makes zero sense.



Hard to disagree with any of that. That backline wouldn't create a try playing tag rugby.


You have seen quite a lot of Danny Barnes,Deasy and Tuitupou then have you... ?


Don't quite get the hype about Barnes. Deasy is a good player but he's a kicker not a runner and doesn't really offer the electricity required from 15 to break modern defences. In my view Deasy would make a better centre.


Tuitupou is a good player. No question about that.

Mebawsa Ritchie
19th-August-2010, 19:14
Jebus not 1 second of the season played, and the great sage is at it againsmileys/lol.gif

The Outlaw
19th-August-2010, 19:23
Hating that team, for me it shows that Dave Ryan, Peter O' Mahoney and Jones are going to struggle to get meaniful gametime-yes it's only pre-season but these guys needed games straight away to make an impression on these Aussie donkeys.
POM is far more talented than TOD who is average at best. Billy Holland? Decent player but we have to start playing our talented players. Dave Ryan is a very powerful scrummager who should be playing TH. Jones is a no brainer-class in abundance and a future international. Whats DR doing at 6 with Holland at lock? Will this mean MOD will be playing 5 come HEC? Good to see McGahan is continuing his ways of stifiling our best talents.
Sometimes you wonder what guys have to do to break into this bloody team. Then Archer is a piss poor scrummager and he gets a game then so this makes zero sense.



Hard to disagree with any of that. That backline wouldn't create a try playing tag rugby.


You have seen quite a lot of Danny Barnes,Deasy and Tuitupou then have you... ?


Don't quite get the hype about Barnes. Deasy is a good player but he's a kicker not a runner and doesn't really offer the electricity required from 15 to break modern defences. In my view Deasy would make a better centre.


Tuitupou is a good player. No question about that.


Not what I asked... Deasy a kicker rather than a runner,you must be joking... You don't get the Hype around Barnes, well if you have not seen much of him, then why comment "That backline wouldn't create a try playing tag rugby. ?


Who says I haven't seen Barnes playing. Barnes is not HEC standard in my view. I think Deasy is a 12/13. I don't think he's a 15.


Bench is several notches higher then most of that team. In my view.smileys/biggrin.gif

Mebawsa Ritchie
19th-August-2010, 19:44
Who says I haven't seen Barnes playing. Barnes is not HEC standard in my view. I think Deasy is a 12/13. I don't think he's a 15.


Bench is several notches higher then most of that team. In my view</span>.smileys/biggrin.gif




Devalues it almost totally smileys/wink.gif

The Outlaw
19th-August-2010, 19:53
Hating that team, for me it shows that Dave Ryan, Peter O' Mahoney and Jones are going to struggle to get meaniful gametime-yes it's only pre-season but these guys needed games straight away to make an impression on these Aussie donkeys.
POM is far more talented than TOD who is average at best. Billy Holland? Decent player but we have to start playing our talented players. Dave Ryan is a very powerful scrummager who should be playing TH. Jones is a no brainer-class in abundance and a future international. Whats DR doing at 6 with Holland at lock? Will this mean MOD will be playing 5 come HEC? Good to see McGahan is continuing his ways of stifiling our best talents.
Sometimes you wonder what guys have to do to break into this bloody team. Then Archer is a piss poor scrummager and he gets a game then so this makes zero sense.



Hard to disagree with any of that. That backline wouldn't create a try playing tag rugby.


You have seen quite a lot of Danny Barnes,Deasy and Tuitupou then have you... ?


Don't quite get the hype about Barnes. Deasy is a good player but he's a kicker not a runner and doesn't really offer the electricity required from 15 to break modern defences. In my view Deasy would make a better centre.


Tuitupou is a good player. No question about that.


Not what I asked... Deasy a kicker rather than a runner,you must be joking... You don't get the Hype around Barnes, well if you have not seen much of him, then why comment "That backline wouldn't create a try playing tag rugby. ?


Who says I haven't seen Barnes playing. , <S&#079;NG>No one has said that, it was asked,yet you still have not answered,have you seen Danny play with his club,his province underage or at A level,or at preseason last year when he did very well ?</S&#079;NG> Barnes is not HEC standard in my view. This is a pre-season friendly ffs..<S&#079;NG>In my view</S&#079;NG>, your view on most things Munster is like the racehorse seabiscuit...I think Deasy is a 12/13. I don't think he's a 15. You have not seen the boy play with his club over the years much either i take it. ?. He is quite comfortable at 15.


Bench is several notches higher then most of that team. In my view.smileys/biggrin.gif





Neeiiiiiiiggggghhh








Well lets face it Lazurus my predictions on Munster last year werea lot closer then yours. But then again that's not much of a challenge these days smileys/biggrin.gif. But sure there is always this year!!

The Outlaw
19th-August-2010, 19:53
Who says I haven't seen Barnes playing. Barnes is not HEC standard in my view. I think Deasy is a 12/13. I don't think he's a 15.


Bench is several notches higher then most of that team. In my view.smileys/biggrin.gif







Devalues it almost totally smileys/wink.gif



Source?smileys/biggrin.gif

Mebawsa Ritchie
19th-August-2010, 20:00
Who says I haven't seen Barnes playing. Barnes is not HEC standard in my view. I think Deasy is a 12/13. I don't think he's a 15.


Bench is several notches higher then most of that team. In my view</span>.smileys/biggrin.gif







Devalues it almost totally smileys/wink.gif



Source?smileys/biggrin.gif

The hot air coming out of your orifice smileys/badgrin.gif

The Outlaw
19th-August-2010, 20:18
Hating that team, for me it shows that Dave Ryan, Peter O' Mahoney and Jones are going to struggle to get meaniful gametime-yes it's only pre-season but these guys needed games straight away to make an impression on these Aussie donkeys.
POM is far more talented than TOD who is average at best. Billy Holland? Decent player but we have to start playing our talented players. Dave Ryan is a very powerful scrummager who should be playing TH. Jones is a no brainer-class in abundance and a future international. Whats DR doing at 6 with Holland at lock? Will this mean MOD will be playing 5 come HEC? Good to see McGahan is continuing his ways of stifiling our best talents.
Sometimes you wonder what guys have to do to break into this bloody team. Then Archer is a piss poor scrummager and he gets a game then so this makes zero sense.



Hard to disagree with any of that. That backline wouldn't create a try playing tag rugby.


You have seen quite a lot of Danny Barnes,Deasy and Tuitupou then have you... ?


Don't quite get the hype about Barnes. Deasy is a good player but he's a kicker not a runner and doesn't really offer the electricity required from 15 to break modern defences. In my view Deasy would make a better centre.


Tuitupou is a good player. No question about that.


Not what I asked... Deasy a kicker rather than a runner,you must be joking... You don't get the Hype around Barnes, well if you have not seen much of him, then why comment "That backline wouldn't create a try playing tag rugby. ?


Who says I haven't seen Barnes playing. , <S&#079;NG>No one has said that, it was asked,yet you still have not answered,have you seen Danny play with his club,his province underage or at A level,or at preseason last year when he did very well ?</S&#079;NG> Barnes is not HEC standard in my view. This is a pre-season friendly ffs..<S&#079;NG>In my view</S&#079;NG>, your view on most things Munster is like the racehorse seabiscuit...I think Deasy is a 12/13. I don't think he's a 15. You have not seen the boy play with his club over the years much either i take it. ?. He is quite comfortable at 15.


Bench is several notches higher then most of that team. In my view.smileys/biggrin.gif





Neeiiiiiiiggggghhh








Well lets face it Lazurus my predictions on Munster last year werea lot closer then yours. But then again that's not much of a challenge these days smileys/biggrin.gif. But sure there is always this year!!


Not quite sure if they were to be honest,but sure,, if IN YOUR VIEW they were,then who am I to argue ?


Then again, it's nice to be able to look ahead to a season and be reasonably confident that the team you support will be at least competitive, and if not, then we won't blame...oh, lets see,funding, irfu,location,co council,...





Lazurus I'm disappointed. I mean slagging off Connacht is like taking the piss out of Fianna Fail. C'mon you can do better then that!

scotscor
19th-August-2010, 20:21
Outlaw, you really dont know what you are talking about when it comes to Deasy or Barnes, I havent seen much of either or them, but Deasy against Edinburgh was anything but a kicker and wa a very exciting runner. Barnes seems to be able to score trys in the same way that O'Boyle was, hopefully he will have more luck with injuries. I know nothing of SamT

scotscor
19th-August-2010, 20:22
Hating that team, for me it shows that Dave Ryan, Peter O' Mahoney and Jones are going to struggle to get meaniful gametime-yes it's only pre-season but these guys needed games straight away to make an impression on these Aussie donkeys.
POM is far more talented than TOD who is average at best. Billy Holland? Decent player but we have to start playing our talented players. Dave Ryan is a very powerful scrummager who should be playing TH. Jones is a no brainer-class in abundance and a future international. Whats DR doing at 6 with Holland at lock? Will this mean MOD will be playing 5 come HEC? Good to see McGahan is continuing his ways of stifiling our best talents.
Sometimes you wonder what guys have to do to break into this bloody team. Then Archer is a piss poor scrummager and he gets a game then so this makes zero sense.



Hard to disagree with any of that. That backline wouldn't create a try playing tag rugby.


You have seen quite a lot of Danny Barnes,Deasy and Tuitupou then have you... ?


Don't quite get the hype about Barnes. Deasy is a good player but he's a kicker not a runner and doesn't really offer the electricity required from 15 to break modern defences. In my view Deasy would make a better centre.


Tuitupou is a good player. No question about that.


Not what I asked... Deasy a kicker rather than a runner,you must be joking... You don't get the Hype around Barnes, well if you have not seen much of him, then why comment "That backline wouldn't create a try playing tag rugby. ?


Who says I haven't seen Barnes playing. , <s&#079;ng>No one has said that, it was asked,yet you still have not answered,have you seen Danny play with his club,his province underage or at A level,or at preseason last year when he did very well ?</font></s&#079;ng> Barnes is not HEC standard in my view. This is a pre-season friendly ffs..<s&#079;ng>In my view</s&#079;ng>, your view on most things Munster is like the racehorse seabiscuit...I think Deasy is a 12/13. I don't think he's a 15. You have not seen the boy play with his club over the years much either i take it. ?. He is quite comfortable at 15.


Bench is several notches higher then most of that team. In my view.smileys/biggrin.gif





Neeiiiiiiiggggghhh








Well lets face it Lazurus my predictions on Munster last year werea lot closer then yours. But then again that's not much of a challenge these days smileys/biggrin.gif. But sure there is always this year!!


Not quite sure if they were to be honest,but sure,, if IN YOUR VIEW they were,then who am I to argue ?


Then again, it's nice to be able to look ahead to a season and be reasonably confident that the team you support will be at least competitive, and if not, then we won't blame...oh, lets see,funding, irfu,location,co council,...





Lazurus I'm disappointed. I mean slagging off Connacht is like taking the piss out of Fianna Fail. C'mon you can do better then that!
Its pretty hard to slag a side you would normally want to see do well, but when a supposed fan of theirs acts the idiot, hmmmm

The Outlaw
19th-August-2010, 20:23
Outlaw, you really dont know what you are talking about when it comes to Deasy or Barnes, I havent seen much of either or them, but Deasy against Edinburgh was anything but a kicker and wa a very exciting runner. Barnes seems to be able to score trys in the same way that O'Boyle was, hopefully he will have more luck with injuries. I know nothing of SamT


I don't think Deasy has the outright gas for 15. He is a very good player though. I never suggested he wasn't.


I don't think Barnes is great. thats just my opinion. i think Munster have better options.

scotscor
19th-August-2010, 20:26
I worry about the future for Munster, we seem to have 40 players who will more than hold their own in the ML. In fact Munster can probably still be fighting for a playoff spot even without 15 Irish internationals for the whole season. But how many of those coming through are really magic. How many of those who are so far not capped will be capped? how many are going to make the lions? I don't think any of these player has the hype and buzz that Earls had,and I'm not sure if there is a POC, Wally, Leamy or Quinnie amongst them.

Tobyglen
19th-August-2010, 20:34
We're so backwards in integrating young talented players into the team it's criminal

tickettout
19th-August-2010, 20:35
I worry about the future for Munster, we seem to have 40 players who will more than hold their own in the ML. In fact Munster can probably still be fighting for a playoff spot even without 15 Irish internationals for the whole season. But how many of those coming through are really magic. How many of those who are so far not capped will be capped? how many are going to make the lions? I don't think any of these player has the hype and buzz that Earls had,and I'm not sure if there is a POC, Wally, Leamy or Quinnie amongst them.


I agree, lots and lots of threads and hype about our young players last season, none of which came close to breaking into our HEC team even when we were depleted against Biarritz.


IMO a player has only broke through when he is deemed good enough for the first team on HEC duty.

Mebawsa Ritchie
19th-August-2010, 20:36
Изгой дурачок.

tickettout
19th-August-2010, 20:38
Изгой дурачок.


+1

Gezza
20th-August-2010, 07:15
Изгой дурачок.


Totally Agree 100%! by the way is there any Radio Station doing coverage of the match?

soccer rules
20th-August-2010, 10:38
I worry about the future for Munster, we seem to have 40 players who will more than hold their own in the ML. In fact Munster can probably still be fighting for a playoff spot even without 15 Irish internationals for the whole season. But how many of those coming through are really magic. How many of those who are so far not capped will be capped? how many are going to make the lions? I don't think any of these player has the hype and buzz that Earls had,and I'm not sure if there is a POC, Wally, Leamy or Quinnie amongst them.


you mention players like POC, wally, leamy and quinnie as a bench mark, none of these players just burst onto the scene, wally and quinnie are like fine wines who have improved with age, don't forget while williams was here, both struggled to keep a jersey. leamy and poc are 2 more that didn't burst onto the scene and take a jersey, they got it when foley and galway were at the end of their career.


earls is the1st player since stringer and rog to burst into the team. munster have always been slow to introduce players, but they always have.


players who will be capped imo are , dave ryan, foley, williams, jones, zebo, and butler. add that to varley, cronin, hurley, ronan, and ryan who will all pick up a fair few caps

scotscor
20th-August-2010, 11:05
Would disagree, as far as I can remember both POC and Leamy played HEC in their first season, unfortunately Leamy got injured and was out for nearly a season soon after his debut - iirc, while POC got capped within a very short time of his munster debut

Balla Boy
20th-August-2010, 11:12
plenty of rain in Cork today - at least help to take some of the concrete feel from the pitch.





That's not rain. I have it on firm authority from Tobyglen that the sky is falling.

Tobyglen
20th-August-2010, 11:20
plenty of rain in Cork today - at least help to take some of the concrete feel from the pitch.





That's not rain. I have it on firm authority from Tobyglen that the sky is falling.
Ken Ring told me that was the sky alright.

Kingfisher234
20th-August-2010, 13:34
sorry about this guys ...am on the run... i know its prob not the right thread but does anyone know if theres tickets at the gate tonight ... just got a pass from the missus and havnet had a chance to look it up,,, thanks in advance smileys/smile.gif will check in again later

Cervidave
20th-August-2010, 14:53
any chance of getting a match tracker for this? the odd text message or update even?

Cathal
20th-August-2010, 15:46
any chance of getting a match tracker for this? the odd text message or update even?


I asked a few pages back and got no reply, doesn't look good!
Oddly we had massive threads for last year's preseason games (including updates from Leicester) from several people there but alas it seems nothing this year.

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 16:10
Quiet enough so far. No major trouble with handling and ine good
mall so far. Still working cob webs out

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 16:11
Quiet enough so far. No major trouble
with handling and ine good mall so far.
Still working cob webs out

Two bad scrums though

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 16:16
Offside at scrum by their scrum half on half
way.

Comfortably over from warwick

Cathal
20th-August-2010, 16:20
Offside at scrum by their scrum half on half

way.



Comfortably over from warwick

smileys/thumb-up.gif

Keep them coming, please.

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 16:22
Tigers Putting some good pieces of play.
Not able to finish off sequences yet.
Tuilangi (?) hitting hard when he has ball

Scrum still poor. A lot of our possession
from their mistakes

Deck. Try by big t in the corner

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 16:23
Flood converts

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 16:25
Flood converts

Kicking well in fairness and using lineout
well. No lost that . No penalty us, no
reversed for a shove

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 16:27
Was their line out anyway. Stole the next one

SilkenThomas
20th-August-2010, 16:28
Is there any match tracker? Some updates here alright but not much

http://www.facebook.com/pages/RedFMs-Big-Red-Bench/120574757 983008

lactose intolerant
20th-August-2010, 16:28
Tigers Putting some good pieces of play.

Not able to finish off sequences yet.

Tuilangi (?) hitting hard when he has ball



Scrum still poor. A lot of our possession

from their mistakes



Deck</span>. Try by big t in the corner

smileys/lol.gif

iPhone censoring you, ya potty-mouthed fecker

SilkenThomas
20th-August-2010, 16:34
Leicester with a man in the bin

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 16:36
Some decent phases and passes put
together by munster. Peno on 22

Converted

SilkenThomas
20th-August-2010, 16:42
Flood pen for Leicester half time

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 16:44
After 3 scrums on 22 Leicester get penalty

6 10

Half time

Positives, decent physical workout. Kicking
from hand good. Lineouts good although
one or two steals were throwing problems

They look reasonably sharp too. Following
up well on kicks and having a go

Lucky more passes didn't go to hand or
twilagi could have been in more

Toni The Tigress
20th-August-2010, 16:49
Tigers, Tigers I think we will win this one. Who's the man with sports jacket and clip board rushing around the place, sharp nose but cute.
No Satzenberg at the bar only Murphy's, Heineken and Guinness. Chips were noise from the mobile chippy, tomato sauce horrible though.

munstermoll
20th-August-2010, 16:56
6 - 10 to ??

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 16:57
Jones and somone else on. Murphy I think binned

Cervidave
20th-August-2010, 16:58
cheers for the updates HR!smileys/thumb-up.gif

Cervidave
20th-August-2010, 16:59
6 - 10 to ??


Leicester are ahead.

munstermoll
20th-August-2010, 17:00
6 - 10 to ??


Leicester are ahead.

ty

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 17:01
Try! Penalty munster. Into corner. Mall.
Turned over but clearance blocked

Number 8 leamy gets on it. Converted

ozman51
20th-August-2010, 17:01
6 - 10 to ??


6-10 Cork to Dublin 0-3http://www.munsterfans.com/forum/smileys/surprised.gif


G'WAN REBS!!

Cervidave
20th-August-2010, 17:03
woop woop, gwan Leamy

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 17:04
Hurley and nagle on

lactose intolerant
20th-August-2010, 17:04
6 - 10 to ??


1 - 3 Kilkenny are rampant again smileys/wink.gif

Cervidave
20th-August-2010, 17:05
how are the young guns doing?

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 17:09
Big superman dive in for a try by tuilangi

lactose intolerant
20th-August-2010, 17:09
6 - 10 to ??


6-10 Cork to Dublin 0-3http://www.munsterfans.com/forum/smileys/surprised.gif


G'WAN REBS!!

snap smileys/lol.gif

i blame my slow interweb

munstermoll
20th-August-2010, 17:10
6 - 10 to ??


6-10 Cork to Dublin 0-3http://www.munsterfans.com/forum/smileys/surprised.gif


G'WAN REBS!!

snap smileys/lol.gif

i blame my slow interweb


thats what your blaming smileys/biggrin.gif

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 17:11
Our 13 binned. Did something to T when
he scored

Try converted

Luimneach
20th-August-2010, 17:11
6 - 10 to ??


6-10 Cork to Dublin 0-3http://www.munsterfans.com/forum/smileys/surprised.gif


G'WAN REBS!!
smileys/lol.gif

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 17:13
More leocester pressure but leamy makes
important tackle Nd wins scrum

Playing well he is

lactose intolerant
20th-August-2010, 17:15
6 - 10 to ??


6-10 Cork to Dublin 0-3http://www.munsterfans.com/forum/smileys/surprised.gif


G'WAN REBS!!

snap smileys/lol.gif

i blame my slow interweb


thats what your blaming smileys/biggrin.gif


yes, yes it is!! shup ya muppet

ozman51
20th-August-2010, 17:17
More leocester pressure but leamy makes
important tackle Nd wins scrum

Playing well he is


Interesting....Leams may be a smarter interim captain that ROG.....

Cervidave
20th-August-2010, 17:17
good to hear leamy's back on form!

Cervidave
20th-August-2010, 17:21
More leocester pressure but leamy makes
important tackle Nd wins scrum

Playing well he is


Interesting....Leams may be a smarter interim captain that ROG.....

Is Leamy guaranteed a start though, that's the question...In ROG you have a player who's gonna start every game once he's fit.

hellovating
20th-August-2010, 17:23
Is Leamy guaranteed a start though, that's the question...In ROG you have a player who's gonna start every game once he's fit.



yes.

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 17:28
Exciting spell there. Zebo adding a spark
and lifting the mood a bit. Had a spell of
pressure frm Leicester too

Stan on about ten minutes now btw

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 17:36
All over

munstermoll
20th-August-2010, 17:36
ty for the updates HR what was the final score?

Cervidave
20th-August-2010, 17:37
Full Time:

Leicester 17 - 13 Munster

20th-August-2010, 17:38
Where's outlaw?

ozman51
20th-August-2010, 17:38
Exciting spell there. Zebo adding a spark
and lifting the mood a bit. Had a spell of
pressure frm Leicester too

Stan on about ten minutes now btw


Will Zebo pan out?? I hope so...can be very exciting!!

munstermoll
20th-August-2010, 17:38
Full Time:

Leicester 17 - 13 Munster



.
ta

wayen
20th-August-2010, 17:39
thanks for the match updates HR.

ozman51
20th-August-2010, 17:40
Good on yaHR! Thanks for the updates!!

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 17:41
13 17. Had peno at end but went for corner

The Outlaw
20th-August-2010, 17:44
Where's outlaw?


Here why?

hellovating
20th-August-2010, 17:50
cheers HR. appreciate the updates.

Cervidave
20th-August-2010, 17:51
So what are the positives from that match? What needs improving and what's working well?

ozman51
20th-August-2010, 17:52
So what are the positives from that match? What needs improving and what's working well?


Positives - HR's updates


Improving - Television/Radio coverage of preseason fixtures


Working Well - HR's texting fingers


smileys/wink.gif

lactose intolerant
20th-August-2010, 17:55
So what are the positives from that match? What needs improving and what's working well?


Positives - HR's updates


Improving - Television/Radio coverage of preseason fixtures


Working Well - HR's texting fingers


smileys/wink.gif

smileys/lol.gif i like this guy

cheers for the updates HR

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 17:57
Someone else can do it next week smileys/razz.gif

munstermoll
20th-August-2010, 17:57
So what are the positives from that match? What needs improving and what's working well?


Positives - HR's updates


Improving - Television/Radio coverage of preseason fixtures


Working Well - HR's texting fingers


smileys/wink.gif

smileys/lol.gif i like this guy

cheers for the updates HR


You've got the Clique PROs approval, you have made it into the inner circle smileys/smile.gif

Toni The Tigress
20th-August-2010, 17:57
Great win, great night and what an atmosphere. Heard from a chap at the match that Thomond is the real home of rugby and thatj cork was full of man u types. Everyone at musgrave look much poorer than the leinsterfans in edinburgh. Shirts all tatty and worn. Right got to head to town now and to the thomond followed by cuba blacks. Satzenberg anyone ?

Luimneach
20th-August-2010, 17:58
Well done HR!! thanks for the Updates

Conas
20th-August-2010, 18:02
I knew leamy was going to have a massive season....didn't I????? didn't I???? ahahahahahaha

The Word Is Born
20th-August-2010, 18:04
So what are the positives from that match? What needs improving and what's working well?


Positives - HR's updates


Improving - Television/Radio coverage of preseason fixtures


Working Well - HR's texting fingers


smileys/wink.gif

smileys/lol.gif i like this guy




No, nothing here to find funny.

ozman51
20th-August-2010, 18:04
So what are the positives from that match? What needs improving and what's working well?


Positives - HR's updates


Improving - Television/Radio coverage of preseason fixtures


Working Well - HR's texting fingers


smileys/wink.gif




smileys/lol.gif i like this guy

cheers for the updates HR


You've got the Clique PROs approval, you have made it into the inner circle smileys/smile.gif



Brilliant!!!smileys/surprised.gif


I feel all tingly inside!! Tis it be the cliqueness inside me???!?!!!smileys/biggrin.gif


I LOVE IT!!

The Word Is Born
20th-August-2010, 18:07
So what are the positives from that match? What needs improving and what's working well?


Positives - HR's updates


Improving - Television/Radio coverage of preseason fixtures


Working Well - HR's texting fingers


smileys/wink.gif




smileys/lol.gif i like this guy

cheers for the updates HR


You've got the Clique PROs approval, you have made it into the inner circle smileys/smile.gif



Brilliant!!!smileys/surprised.gif


I feel all tingly inside!! Tis it be the cliqueness inside me???!?!!!smileys/biggrin.gif


I LOVE IT!!

Larry makes you tingle on the inside?

Blindsider.
20th-August-2010, 18:08
Our 13 binned. Did something to T when

he scored



Try converted

As Tuilagi landed on the deck our 13 landed on his back - knees first - it was completely avoidable. Tuilagi was none too impressed and didn't hide his feelings either. I thought it was a completely reckless and pointless thing to do.smileys/sad.gif

ozman51
20th-August-2010, 18:12
So what are the positives from that match? What needs improving and what's working well?


Positives - HR's updates


Improving - Television/Radio coverage of preseason fixtures


Working Well - HR's texting fingers


smileys/wink.gif




smileys/lol.gif i like this guy

cheers for the updates HR


You've got the Clique PROs approval, you have made it into the inner circle smileys/smile.gif



Brilliant!!!smileys/surprised.gif


I feel all tingly inside!! Tis it be the cliqueness inside me???!?!!!smileys/biggrin.gif


I LOVE IT!!




Larry makes you tingle on the inside?



Me thinks you make me tingle Word!smileys/wink.gif............only a littlesmileys/redface.gif

dawnrun
20th-August-2010, 18:12
Truly woeful display by Munster, the pack were destroyed at every scrum. Only positives were the return of Leamy and Ryan, Leamy in particular, and the 6 minute cameo by Simon Zebo, waking up the lethargic Munster support. Not a good start and have to say that Leicester's attitude was excellent and ours was poor.

lactose intolerant
20th-August-2010, 18:13
So what are the positives from that match? What needs improving and what's working well?


Positives - HR's updates


Improving - Television/Radio coverage of preseason fixtures


Working Well - HR's texting fingers


smileys/wink.gif




smileys/lol.gif i like this guy

cheers for the updates HR


You've got the Clique PROs approval, you have made it into the inner circle smileys/smile.gif



Brilliant!!!smileys/surprised.gif


I feel all tingly inside!! Tis it be the cliqueness inside me???!?!!!smileys/biggrin.gif


I LOVE IT!!

Larry makes you tingle on the inside?


every time.....really?

Cervidave
20th-August-2010, 18:15
Great win, great night and what an atmosphere. Heard from a chap at the match that Thomond is the real home of rugby and thatj cork was full of man u types. Everyone at musgrave look much poorer than the leinsterfans in edinburgh. Shirts all tatty and worn. Right got to head to town now and to the thomond followed by cuba blacks. Satzenberg anyone ?

muppet smileys/sad.gif

ozman51
20th-August-2010, 18:18
Great win, great night and what an atmosphere. Heard from a chap at the match that Thomond is the real home of rugby and thatj cork was full of man u types. Everyone at musgrave look much poorer than the leinsterfans in edinburgh. Shirts all tatty and worn. Right got to head to town now and to the thomond followed by cuba blacks. Satzenberg anyone ?

muppet smileys/sad.gif



Now that be a right muppet!! smileys/thumb-down.gif

RobbieG
20th-August-2010, 18:19
Truly woeful display by Munster, the pack were destroyed at every scrum</span>. Only positives were the return of Leamy and Ryan, Leamy in particular, and the 6 minute cameo by Simon Zebo, waking up the lethargic Munster support. Not a good start and have to say that Leicester's attitude was excellent and ours was poor.


Fisher out!

Tobyglen
20th-August-2010, 18:20
Truly woeful display by Munster, the pack were destroyed at every scrum. Only positives were the return of Leamy and Ryan, Leamy in particular, and the 6 minute cameo by Simon Zebo, waking up the lethargic Munster support. Not a good start and have to say that Leicester's attitude was excellent and ours was poor.

Not surprised, Archer is a shocking scrummager, I'm presuming TOD and Billy Holland were non existent.

hellovating
20th-August-2010, 18:26
lots of pics....... here (http://www.inpho.ie/cgi-bin/Web&#079;bjects/INPHO-Shop.woa/wa/e?e=2m0bRer13ua4QdeybKfCCnNGrCfMkv_XoLmOzAl77aE.a)

ozman51
20th-August-2010, 18:29
lots of pics....... here (http://www.inpho.ie/cgi-bin/Web&#079;bjects/INPHO-Shop.woa/wa/e?e=2m0bRer13ua4QdeybKfCCnNGrCfMkv_XoLmOzAl77aE.a)


Jaysus!! Didn't know they were wearin' the new limey togs!!!


Any witness on how they look in person?....Hi-Visibility and all!!

Call999
20th-August-2010, 18:31
Scrum was very poor as in non existant. Needs to be fixed Mac are you listening? Leamy was very good, Warrick and Dowling were good and some of the newer guys showed promise. Sammy T-pou made one or two good tackles....
It all lacked cohesion and a plan it seemed.
Enjoyable and promising - I wouldn't be as negative as others on here about the performance.

Call999
20th-August-2010, 18:33
lots of pics....... here (http://www.inpho.ie/cgi-bin/Web&#079;bjects/INPHO-Shop.woa/wa/e?e=2m0bRer13ua4QdeybKfCCnNGrCfMkv_XoLmOzAl77aE.a)


Jaysus!! Didn't know they were wearin' the new limey togs!!!


Any witness on how they look in person?....Hi-Visibility and all!!
Rank

Upfront_1979
20th-August-2010, 18:38
Truly woeful display by Munster, the pack were destroyed at every scrum. Only positives were the return of Leamy and Ryan, Leamy in particular, and the 6 minute cameo by Simon Zebo, waking up the lethargic Munster support. Not a good start and have to say that Leicester's attitude was excellent and ours was poor.

Fisher out!



great to see that avatar back! its been a while.


Bouncy Bouncy

ozman51
20th-August-2010, 18:40
lots of pics....... here (http://www.inpho.ie/cgi-bin/Web&#079;bjects/INPHO-Shop.woa/wa/e?e=2m0bRer13ua4QdeybKfCCnNGrCfMkv_XoLmOzAl77aE.a)


Jaysus!! Didn't know they were wearin' the new limey togs!!!


Any witness on how they look in person?....Hi-Visibility and all!!



Rank



Lovely!!smileys/sad.gif

corknleitrim
20th-August-2010, 18:42
lots of pics....... here (http://www.inpho.ie/cgi-bin/Web&#079;bjects/INPHO-Shop.woa/wa/e?e=2m0bRer13ua4QdeybKfCCnNGrCfMkv_XoLmOzAl77aE.a)


Christ those jerseys are rank, on a side note Toulon very good tonight, 5 mins to go beating Biarrittz 13-3 in Biarritz

Mcork
20th-August-2010, 18:49
lots of pics....... here (http://www.inpho.ie/cgi-bin/Web&#079;bjects/INPHO-Shop.woa/wa/e?e=2m0bRer13ua4QdeybKfCCnNGrCfMkv_XoLmOzAl77aE.a)


Christ those jerseys are rank, on a side note Toulon very good tonight, 5 mins to go beating Biarrittz 13-3 in Biarritz

Watching that match, appaling stuff (the BOPB - Toulon game I mean). Lowest standard of rugby possible. No line breaks, just mistake after mistake. Toulon's defence is impressive - after that??

Rebel Yell
20th-August-2010, 18:51
Not much to go on tonight as others mentioned Dowling, leamy and Warwick very good. Forwards were destroyed in scrumbut leicester were pretty much full strength. Fogarty's throwing was terrible and major concern when he couldnt keep it together in a friendly. Felix Jones made a welcome return and even bundled Tuilagi into touch with his first contact. Both himself and Zebo made big impressions. Murray was also impressive at scrumhalf but possibly was helped byWilliams poor slow distribution before him. It is only the first friendly of the season.

Mcork
20th-August-2010, 18:55
I have the impression that you can't fix what is wrong with Fogarthy's throwing. Very good around the field but simply no accuracy or aptitude for throwing into the LO.

Call999
20th-August-2010, 19:00
I have the impression that you can't fix what is wrong with Fogarthy's throwing. Very good around the field but simply no accuracy or aptitude for throwing into the LO.


I'm inclined to agree = Varley has it

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 19:03
Scrum was the worst aspect. Had three in a row at one stage on 5m
and only got out because Leicester fed the scrum

Leicester could have won by a lot more

I didn't answer a question about youngsters because new job keeping
me occupied so I'm not as prepared going into this years games and
couldn't get a programme either

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 19:07
As for positives I thought despite a second
half mostly in our own half I thought they
looked sharp enough in ways. Quick
following up on kicks and sharp on loose
balls.
Some weak turnovers
Straight up tackling wasn't bad but some
need target practice. Not connecting fully

Quailman
20th-August-2010, 19:15
How did the scrum-halves get on?

Exile
20th-August-2010, 19:18
Positives; Leamy. Murray quickened things up when he came on. Warwick. Darragh Hurley looked better in the scrum.





Weaknesses; the scrum, especially before half-time when the seven-man Leicester pack shunted the Munster scrum. Williams a bit slow &amp; ponderous at scrum half.

Buceph
20th-August-2010, 19:35
How did the scrum-halves get on?


Terrible from Duncan Williams. If you think Tomas is slow then you'll think Duncan Williams is glacial. He was taking three or four steps from the back of every ruck, he dropped the ball a couple of times, delivered a couple of hospital passes, and constantly let Leceister through to the 10 channel from scrums (he didn't close down his side of the scrum) meaning the 7 and 10 had a lot more work to do. I'd understand if it was just around scrum time, because the forwards were poor then, but rucks were fine. The back line looked much better, faster and more decisive when he came off. Maybe he just doesn't have the confidence for this level yet and needs a few games to warm up, which is what these matches are for. I've heard good things about him (but of course that could be the usual con ego.)

dropkick
20th-August-2010, 19:38
I have the impression that you can't fix what
is wrong with Fogarthy's throwing. Very good around the field
but simply no accuracy or aptitude for throwing into the LO.
I'm inclined to agree = Varley has it

How many chances does a player need. Its not that
complicated and not hard to see the damage bad throwing
does to a team.

glorob
20th-August-2010, 19:46
How did the scrum-halves get on?


Peter Stringer should be given a coaching role. Maybe he could teach our scrum halves how to pass the ball.

The Outlaw
20th-August-2010, 19:50
How did the scrum-halves get on?


Peter Stringer should be given a coaching role. Maybe he could teach our scrum halves how to pass the ball.





The IRFU should employ him. We haven't an international standard passer of the ball in the professional game anymore in Ireland.

inglorious
20th-August-2010, 19:52
Watched Archer being taught a lesson tonight.AIL is his level at the moment but he needs to improve by 100% if he wants to make it on a bigger stage.

bellmop
20th-August-2010, 19:52
How did the scrum-halves get on?*



Peter Stringer should be given a coaching role. Maybe he
could teach our scrum halves how to pass the ball.





The IRFU should employ him. We haven't an international
standard passer of the ball in the professional game anymore
in Ireland.
Peter Stringer no

Mebawsa Ritchie
20th-August-2010, 20:02
We need several scrum coaches.

Tigers 1st team won against our 2nds/youngsters. Fair play.

Quailman
20th-August-2010, 20:09
Watched Archer being taught a lesson tonight.AIL is his level at the moment but he needs to improve by 100% if he wants to make it on a bigger stage.

He's 22 and our 4th choice TH. He has a lot of time to develop.

Cervidave
20th-August-2010, 20:09
We need several scrum coaches.

Tigers 1st team won against our 2nds/youngsters. Fair play.</span>


Exactly, a bit of perspective is needed here I think.

dropkick
20th-August-2010, 20:11
I wouldn't be to hard on Archer. Its early yet in the season
nevermind his career. Don't forget what was behind the props
too. I'd imagine the Leicester second rows were far bigger
than Munsters.

Call999
20th-August-2010, 20:13
We need several scrum coaches.

Tigers 1st team won against our 2nds/youngsters. Fair play.</span>


Exactly, a bit of perspective is needed here I think.

Why? has something changed on the site?smileys/wink.gif

Cervidave
20th-August-2010, 20:21
We need several scrum coaches.

Tigers 1st team won against our 2nds/youngsters. Fair play.</span>


Exactly, a bit of perspective is needed here I think.

Why? has something changed on the site?smileys/wink.gif


This is very true!

oilean
20th-August-2010, 20:46
Great to see Leamy back-Great kicking by Warwick Dave
Ryan showed well when he came on

fogerty
20th-August-2010, 20:49
I have the impression that you can't fix what is wrong with Fogarthy's throwing. Very good around the field but simply no accuracy or aptitude for throwing into the LO.


Thought the lineout went well this evening. He only missed one or two, other then that he hit his targets.

Tobyglen
20th-August-2010, 21:04
Good to hear Conor Murray doing well, that guy has serious potential, played for the Irish 20s 18 months ago aswell.

ligind
20th-August-2010, 21:41
Photos from tonight here (http://ninetyninecall.wordpress.com/2010/08/20/photos-munster-v-leicester-pre-seas&#111;n/)

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 21:55
There was a guy near me giving out about testing during the game.
Not sure if he was giving out to his mate or about me. Couldn't be
arsed telling him what I was up to smileys/razz.gif

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 21:57
Photos from tonight
<a href="http://ninetyninecall.wordpress.co
<br / target="_blank">m/2010/08/20/photos-munster-v-
leicester-pre-season/">here</a>


That 5th picture really shows how handy
a big west stand would be. Everyone
had hands over eyes the whole game. Big stand might block sun for a
bit this time of year

Conas
20th-August-2010, 22:01
You should not have text this forum during the game, you should have relaxed and enjoyed the whole thing yourself. People on this forum will milk you for everything you've got if they thought they could. They don't deserve to be spoilt.


To me you wasted a lot of money going to the game tonight when all you did is spend itsending updates to this forum.

Cervidave
20th-August-2010, 22:13
You should not have text this forum during the game, you should have relaxed and enjoyed the whole thing yourself. People on this forum will milk you for everything you've got if they thought they could. They don't deserve to be spoilt.


To me you wasted a lot of money going to the game tonight when all you did is spend itsending updates to this forum.

feck off

Hugged Rugger
20th-August-2010, 22:16
I didn't mind doing it for one game as it
wasn't televised. And I tried to pick my
moments

Anyway the ticket was free smileys/smile.gif

Conas
20th-August-2010, 22:19
[QUOTE=Conas]

feck off



Learn some manners you arsehole. The smell off you...wash yourself.

Point
20th-August-2010, 23:36
How did the scrum-halves get on?


Peter Stringer should be given a coaching role. Maybe he could teach our scrum halves how to pass the ball.





You can't teach what Stringer has. It's a gift.

Point
20th-August-2010, 23:41
We need several scrum coaches.

Tigers 1st team won against our 2nds/youngsters. Fair play.



13-17is a great result in the circumstances.-

Waterfordlad
21st-August-2010, 01:58
Well said - I'm very happy with the lads out tonight. Especially compared to the ladeeez whogot stuffed. Could be an interesting year...

youngmunster
21st-August-2010, 04:37
Good report here (http://www.leicestertigers.com/rugby/15518.php)

The Outlaw
21st-August-2010, 05:58
How did the scrum-halves get on?


Peter Stringer should be given a coaching role. Maybe he could teach our scrum halves how to pass the ball.





You can't teach what Stringer has. It's a gift.





Thats an Irish answer to a problem at rugby. However Down Under they find solutions. Hence the reason why they compete at World Cups and we don't.

blackwarrior
21st-August-2010, 06:29
We need several scrum coaches.

Tigers 1st team won against our 2nds/youngsters. Fair play.



Didn't we lost to the Tigers in a similar pre-season friendly 3/4 years ago? Can't remember which season ...

Fraggle
21st-August-2010, 07:26
Was at it last night, thought there were a lot of positives. Leicester had a shot of internationals out and I think they had a run out last weekend too. And they had the best scrum half in the 6 nations playing for the first half, and he was absolutely class. Scrum was a worry but looked a bit lightweight, but apart from the scrum they competed well on the ground.

I thought TOD showed pretty well and was on the end of a few good moves. PW looked as intelligent and dangerous as usual, Leamy had that spark back in his game and a handful of the 'shining lights' that get touted here got a run. Sherry got on, Murray was good and looked comfortable, Paddy Butler got on and took the ball right up to the Leicester no hassle. P Barnes looks like he bulked up a lot and put in some good tackles. I saw him on the wing against sale this time last year and he was like a schoolboy. Denis Hurley looked huge too, forgot how big he was. He looked hungry.

One big disappointment, they didnt really get Tuitupou on a run... thought they might have some move for him off first phase, and thought he should have got on the ball when the game broke up a few times too.

Overall, good stuff against a HC standard team.

By the way, did anyone see the lad who replaced Tuilagi? Lord god, talk about early man... I saw him warming up and thought he would go straight into the front row! Couldn't believe it when they sprung him on the wing... Glad im not playing anymore!

GEORGETHEBEST
21st-August-2010, 08:35
Was there last evening , what a beautiful evening for a game even got a tan. Good game, very committed by both teams at times looked like Leicester would run riot until final ball was either dropped or forward. Alesa Tuilagi built like a brick wall. Game got a bit disjointed 2nd hald with so many subs but thought Felix Jones and Dave Ryan did well. Is it just me or is Duncan Williams slow at getting to rucks and slow at getting the ball out of the ruck

Special mention to Geordan Murphy.... despite an injury stayed around after and stood for loads of photos and signed every thing that was put in front of him when rest of team were in showers and out.

Toni The Tigress
21st-August-2010, 08:41
Geordan is so nice and nothing like a pikey like Johnno says.

Quailman
21st-August-2010, 08:42
By the way, did anyone see the lad who replaced Tuilagi? Lord god, talk about early man... I saw him warming up and thought he would go straight into the front row! Couldn't believe it when they sprung him on the wing... Glad im not playing anymore!



If he looked like an Islander (with shortish hair) that was probably his 'little' brother Manu.

Fraggle
21st-August-2010, 08:58
By the way, did anyone see the lad who replaced Tuilagi? Lord god, talk about early man... I saw him warming up and thought he would go straight into the front row! Couldn't believe it when they sprung him on the wing... Glad im not playing anymore!



If he looked like an Islander (with shortish hair) that was probably his 'little' brother Manu.


Ah no, this fella was whiter than the queen, with a jaw you could rest your pint on. Had a look on the tigers site but couldn't see him. They have a few player profiles with no images. Must be one of them. He was freakish. Denis Hurley was running at him at one stage and he choose the 'head straight into the chest' option rather than take him on...

canine
21st-August-2010, 10:20
I thought it was a very good result for our lads when you consider the opposition


Positives-Leamy ,Omahony -the two Ryans-Du Preez-Nagle-Dowling-O Donnell-Warick--Murray-


We took the only lineout against the throw in


Negatives-got mushed up front (not unexpected when you look at their front row and replacements )

sewa
21st-August-2010, 10:50
Good performance. Leamy was excellent. Head and shoulders over Toby's boyfriend. Our props are a stone underweight though and our 13deserved the yellow. Dived on Tuilagi after the try was scored. D.Ryan cost us an easy 3 pointer too. We tried a throw to 2 on their line near the end when we had no hopeof a rolling maul being successful through the middle.If the point of attack had been shifted immediately we would probably have scored. Good experience and a decent performance all round


P.s. Geordan is a tramp and shouldhave been yellowed at least for a knee drop

Blindsider.
21st-August-2010, 10:58
How did the scrum-halves get on?


Peter Stringer should be given a coaching role. Maybe he could teach our scrum halves how to pass the ball.





You can't teach what Stringer has. It's a gift.

Conor Murray had a lovely pass on him last night - I don't know anything about him , but I'll certainly be keeping an eye out for him from now on.

Toni The Tigress
21st-August-2010, 11:03
He had a lovely ass on him toosmileys/wink.gif

Blindsider.
21st-August-2010, 11:07
Toni - back to the mainland with you before you drink all our Satz, eat all our Hillbillies and corrupt all our men - this is holy Catholic Ireland you know!

BTW - Geordan Murphy YC'd for punching - uncharacteristic surely?

sewa
21st-August-2010, 11:09
Toni - back to the mainland with you before you drink all our Satz, eat all our Hillbillies and corrupt all our men - this is holy Catholic Ireland you know!

BTW - Geordan Murphy YC'd for punching - uncharacteristic surely?



It wasa knee drop "Jamie style" and there was no YC IIRC

Toni The Tigress
21st-August-2010, 11:09
Its the Pikey in himsmileys/lol.gif

Blindsider.
21st-August-2010, 12:03
Good report here (http://www.leicestertigers.com/rugby/15518.php)

Murphy was def YC'd - I was relying on this report for the reason as it was too far away from me to see properly.

dropkick
21st-August-2010, 12:30
How did POM, TOD and Butler play?

shep
21st-August-2010, 13:47
I read a lot of positives from last nights match, but I feel that our season this year will be based on the performance of our no 12. I'am not reading too much about the performance of Sam. Did he play well? Is he a Tipoki or JDV style player?

Cervidave
21st-August-2010, 17:08
Post match interview withIan Dowling and Denis Leamy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9P1aM4OSEQ

Tobyglen
21st-August-2010, 17:37
I read a lot of positives from last nights match, but I feel that our season this year will be based on the performance of our no 12. I'am not reading too much about the performance of Sam. Did he play well? Is he a Tipoki or JDV style player?
All about our forwards this season, particularly the back row which was poor after Leamy got injured.

Cervidave
21st-August-2010, 19:04
Four losses out of four for the Irish Provinces this weekend.

Let's hope things improve fairly quickly!

Quailman
21st-August-2010, 19:26
I read a lot of positives from last nights match, but I feel that our season this year will be based on the performance of our no 12. I'am not reading too much about the performance of Sam. Did he play well? Is he a Tipoki or JDV style player?

He's more a Halstead straight line runner. Can step and offload, but his primary asset is providing a focal point for the attack with hard running over the gainline. He's not too dissimilar to Mafi, but he's a smarter player who knows when to truck ball up or to release it (Mafi's main, major weakness).

Mcork
21st-August-2010, 19:36
Four losses out of four for the Irish Provinces this weekend.

Let's hope things improve fairly quickly!



Wouldn't panic - reading through some of the reports, you notice all the GP yeams have their INTL's available while the provinces are playing mainly their reserves + academy players.

Buceph
22nd-August-2010, 15:58
How did POM, TOD and Butler play?

O'Donnell was the best of them by far. O'Mahoney looked dire. Butler played alright but I was more concentrating on the 7s battle, as it looks like it's going to be good.


O'Donnell let nothing through, made a couple of saving tackles off a scrum going backwards, easily contained the 10 channel allowing Warwick to move outside and keep check on Leicester's much faster ball. And he covered for Duncan Williams a fair bit. He also made a few breaks from nothing, which I was impressed by, and was what I was hearing about him for a while. Having watched him he always seemed quality in defence and always seems to play with aggression, but he hadn't brought the level of attacking play I'd heard about to the Magner's games so far, like he seemed a bit daunted. The impression I got was he was doing too much in previous matches and fla'ed himself out. He seems to have gotten a much better rugby brain on him since I last saw him play.

O'Mahoney on the other hand was the opposite of O'Donnell. He missed a good few tackles around rucks, and easy tackles at that (although there was at least one tough tackle he made a good attempt.) There was no decisive running play from him, which is fair enough, it often takes a young 7 some time to get to that level of play, especially with an inexperienced 9 (although the young fella who came on for Williams was a lot better.) There was one piece of play that took Munster from the half way line to inside the 22, all through the forwards, and I would have thought that O'Mahoney would eat that up. But he was very poor, straggling around rucks and providing neither support for the running man, clear ball for the scrum half, or as I would have imagined the best option for a 7, standing off and offering himself. Although again, those moves happened extremely quickly, and if given a few more games he could get up to speed.

The thing that most annoyed me about his play wasn't the mistakes, it was the deliberate stuff. There was a series of scrums on the Munster 5, the first collapsed, re-scrum, the second collapsed, re-scrum, the third was being wheeled, but the scrum half and O'Mahoney should have had that covered, especially as it was wheeling to the side Munster's defence was stacked up on. O'Mahoney decided to jump down the middle of the scrum and collapse it, obviously from a lack of faith in himself or the rest of the team, which I thought was way off. And he was very lucky the ref missed it, especially as he had just moved to the other side. The other thing that pissed me off was after a scrum there was a free kick given to Leicester. Instead of standing on the line and watching for the quick one, as I'm sure everyone has been thought to do since they were 10, he decided it was his job to congratulate every forward in the move. Fair enough, a bit of encouragement is fine when you've just won the ball, but not when the opposition are about to take a quick tap five yards from your own try line.

All in all, O'Donnell had his head screwed on, and looked in those 40 minutes like one of the best forwards out there. If he continues at this pace, I'd see him doing well in the Magner's games this season. O'Mahoney was the opposite, he didn't look ready. But that's what these matches are for, I just hope he gets it together quickly.

Allez Les Rouges
22nd-August-2010, 18:00
How did POM, TOD and Butler play?

O'Donnell was the best of them by far. O'Mahoney looked dire. Butler played alright but I was more concentrating on the 7s battle, as it looks like it's going to be good.


O'Donnell let nothing through, made a couple of saving tackles off a scrum going backwards, easily contained the 10 channel allowing Warwick to move outside and keep check on Leicester's much faster ball. And he covered for Duncan Williams a fair bit. He also made a few breaks from nothing, which I was impressed by, and was what I was hearing about him for a while. Having watched him he always seemed quality in defence and always seems to play with aggression, but he hadn't brought the level of attacking play I'd heard about to the Magner's games so far, like he seemed a bit daunted. The impression I got was he was doing too much in previous matches and fla'ed himself out. He seems to have gotten a much better rugby brain on him since I last saw him play.

O'Mahoney on the other hand was the opposite of O'Donnell. He missed a good few tackles around rucks, and easy tackles at that (although there was at least one tough tackle he made a good attempt.) There was no decisive running play from him, which is fair enough, it often takes a young 7 some time to get to that level of play, especially with an inexperienced 9 (although the young fella who came on for Williams was a lot better.) There was one piece of play that took Munster from the half way line to inside the 22, all through the forwards, and I would have thought that O'Mahoney would eat that up. But he was very poor, straggling around rucks and providing neither support for the running man, clear ball for the scrum half, or as I would have imagined the best option for a 7, standing off and offering himself. Although again, those moves happened extremely quickly, and if given a few more games he could get up to speed.

The thing that most annoyed me about his play wasn't the mistakes, it was the deliberate stuff. There was a series of scrums on the Munster 5, the first collapsed, re-scrum, the second collapsed, re-scrum, the third was being wheeled, but the scrum half and O'Mahoney should have had that covered, especially as it was wheeling to the side Munster's defence was stacked up on. O'Mahoney decided to jump down the middle of the scrum and collapse it, obviously from a lack of faith in himself or the rest of the team, which I thought was way off. And he was very lucky the ref missed it, especially as he had just moved to the other side. The other thing that pissed me off was after a scrum there was a free kick given to Leicester. Instead of standing on the line and watching for the quick one, as I'm sure everyone has been thought to do since they were 10, he decided it was his job to congratulate every forward in the move. Fair enough, a bit of encouragement is fine when you've just won the ball, but not when the opposition are about to take a quick tap five yards from your own try line.

All in all, O'Donnell had his head screwed on, and looked in those 40 minutes like one of the best forwards out there. If he continues at this pace, I'd see him doing well in the Magner's games this season. O'Mahoney was the opposite, he didn't look ready. But that's what these matches are for, I just hope he gets it together quickly.



The POM fan club have unfortunately put POM up on a pedestal. Yes he has potential but he is not ready yet and he and his fans will have to be patient. Pleased to see a positive report on tommy O'Donnell. I was beginning to feel that he might also have been over hyped two or three years back as he didn't make the breakthrough last year, mixing the good and the bad. But the big question is whether he is ready to play No 7?

Mebawsa Ritchie
22nd-August-2010, 19:07
I realise it was a pre season "friendly" and was played with a well understrength selection, but the creaking scrum, beaten pack, slow laboured ball and ensuing lack of creativity in the backs is all too familiar.

Rebel Yell
22nd-August-2010, 19:35
POM was not poor and without setting the world on fire held his own against an international laden forward opposition for the half he played. O'Donnell played well. Can't understand the attacks on our up and coming stars in what was the first outing of the season. It stinks a bit of parochialism and a bit of perspective is needed. If you dislike Con fine but anyone who watches AIL would agree that POM was one of the stars of last season....I have no connection with Con

galinka
22nd-August-2010, 19:44
Truly woeful display by Munster, the pack were destroyed at every scrum. Only positives were the return of Leamy and Ryan, Leamy in particular, and the 6 minute cameo by Simon Zebo, waking up the lethargic Munster support. Not a good start and have to say that Leicester's attitude was excellent and ours was poor.
Not surprised, Archer is a shocking scrummager, I'm presuming TOD and Billy Holland were non existent.



Billy Holland was superb - where do you get off with the bias?


Ian Nagle off the bench did well - both leamy and warwick were superb.


Early season - weak 2ns team v strong 1st team - thought it was a good performance.

galinka
22nd-August-2010, 19:47
I have the impression that you can't fix what is wrong with Fogarthy's throwing. Very good around the field but simply no accuracy or aptitude for throwing into the LO.


Thought the lineout went well this evening. He only missed one or two, other then that he hit his targets.



+1 - while i prefer Varley thought Fogs had one of his better games.

galinka
22nd-August-2010, 19:57
Peter O'Mahony only came on at HT for TOD - jeez you dont get much chance on here to get established!!

slipper1
22nd-August-2010, 20:44
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: verdana, arial, tahoma, helvetica, sans-serif !important; COLOR: #000000 !important; FONT-SIZE: 10pt !important">It was about 10 min into the second half that O'Mahony was brought on I think. Leamy had gone off andhad a great game with some good carries after a slow start. TheLeicester backrow had a go at O'Mahoney when he came on and he levelled one of them. Leicester upped their game through the forwards and were inside the Munster 22 for about a quarter of an hour and were kept scoreless, they had their first 15 on at that stage. Munster could have sneaked it at the end, probably should have. </DIV>

Buceph
22nd-August-2010, 21:04
How did POM, TOD and Butler play?

O'Donnell was the best of them by far. O'Mahoney looked dire. Butler played alright but I was more concentrating on the 7s battle, as it looks like it's going to be good.


O'Donnell let nothing through, made a couple of saving tackles off a scrum going backwards, easily contained the 10 channel allowing Warwick to move outside and keep check on Leicester's much faster ball. And he covered for Duncan Williams a fair bit. He also made a few breaks from nothing, which I was impressed by, and was what I was hearing about him for a while. Having watched him he always seemed quality in defence and always seems to play with aggression, but he hadn't brought the level of attacking play I'd heard about to the Magner's games so far, like he seemed a bit daunted. The impression I got was he was doing too much in previous matches and fla'ed himself out. He seems to have gotten a much better rugby brain on him since I last saw him play.

O'Mahoney on the other hand was the opposite of O'Donnell. He missed a good few tackles around rucks, and easy tackles at that (although there was at least one tough tackle he made a good attempt.) There was no decisive running play from him, which is fair enough, it often takes a young 7 some time to get to that level of play, especially with an inexperienced 9 (although the young fella who came on for Williams was a lot better.) There was one piece of play that took Munster from the half way line to inside the 22, all through the forwards, and I would have thought that O'Mahoney would eat that up. But he was very poor, straggling around rucks and providing neither support for the running man, clear ball for the scrum half, or as I would have imagined the best option for a 7, standing off and offering himself. Although again, those moves happened extremely quickly, and if given a few more games he could get up to speed.

The thing that most annoyed me about his play wasn't the mistakes, it was the deliberate stuff. There was a series of scrums on the Munster 5, the first collapsed, re-scrum, the second collapsed, re-scrum, the third was being wheeled, but the scrum half and O'Mahoney should have had that covered, especially as it was wheeling to the side Munster's defence was stacked up on. O'Mahoney decided to jump down the middle of the scrum and collapse it, obviously from a lack of faith in himself or the rest of the team, which I thought was way off. And he was very lucky the ref missed it, especially as he had just moved to the other side. The other thing that pissed me off was after a scrum there was a free kick given to Leicester. Instead of standing on the line and watching for the quick one, as I'm sure everyone has been thought to do since they were 10, he decided it was his job to congratulate every forward in the move. Fair enough, a bit of encouragement is fine when you've just won the ball, but not when the opposition are about to take a quick tap five yards from your own try line.

All in all, O'Donnell had his head screwed on, and looked in those 40 minutes like one of the best forwards out there. If he continues at this pace, I'd see him doing well in the Magner's games this season. O'Mahoney was the opposite, he didn't look ready. But that's what these matches are for, I just hope he gets it together quickly.



The POM fan club have unfortunately put POM up on a pedestal. Yes he has potential but he is not ready yet and he and his fans will have to be patient. Pleased to see a positive report on tommy O'Donnell. I was beginning to feel that he might also have been over hyped two or three years back as he didn't make the breakthrough last year, mixing the good and the bad. But the big question is whether he is ready to play No 7?

To be honest, I think that's most of it with POM. Especially as his fans on here are so f**king bullish. He's only 21, so he has a long way to go yet both for himself and for

McCloud
22nd-August-2010, 21:09
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt! important; COLOR: #000000! important; FONT-FAMILY: verdana, arial, tahoma, helvetica, sans-serif! important">It was about 10 min into the second half that O'Mahony was brought on I think. Leamy had gone off andhad a great game with some good carries after a slow start. TheLeicester backrow had a go at O'Mahoney when he came on and he levelled one of them. Leicester upped their game through the forwards and were inside the Munster 22 for about a quarter of an hour and were kept scoreless, they had their first 15 on at that stage. Munster could have sneaked it at the end, probably should have. </DIV>





Would be good if at some stage of the IRFU's plan we got to see a Munster first 15 lining out for a pre season freindly.

Buceph
22nd-August-2010, 21:13
It was about 10 min into the second half that O'Mahony was brought on I think.

Nope. Half-time sub.


I realise it was a pre season "friendly" and was played with a well understrength selection, but the creaking scrum, beaten pack, slow laboured ball and ensuing lack of creativity in the backs is all too familiar.

To be fair, while the scrum was poor the pack certainly weren't beaten. They held their own a number of times, the maul was fairly static apart from a couple of pushes both sides got on a defensive lineout, they did a lot to not let the opposition forwards through in their 22, and forced them to go out wide. The slow laboured ball was only with one until DW came, who by all accounts is decent player, so to put it down to anything more than first game nerves/rust/whatever is a bit unfair. The second half there was some strong signs from the pack, they rumbled the ball up the pitch quite well with some pick and goes, and short pop passing. And I'm not too sure it was a lack of creativity that got them, rather than a defense with a lack of confidence in the inside man, as that left them open on the wide a number of times. And from what I recall that's how leicester scored on the touchline twice.

McCloud
22nd-August-2010, 21:33
[QUOTE=dropkick]How did POM, TOD and Butler play?

O'Donnell was the best of them by far. O'Mahoney looked dire. Butler played alright but I was more concentrating on the 7s battle, as it looks like it's going to be good.


O'Donnell let nothing through, made a couple of saving tackles off a scrum going backwards, easily contained the 10 channel allowing Warwick to move outside and keep check on Leicester's much faster ball. And he covered for Duncan Williams a fair bit. He also made a few breaks from nothing, which I was impressed by, and was what I was hearing about him for a while. Having watched him he always seemed quality in defence and always seems to play with aggression, but he hadn't brought the level of attacking play I'd heard about to the Magner's games so far, like he seemed a bit daunted. The impression I got was he was doing too much in previous matches and fla'ed himself out. He seems to have gotten a much better rugby brain on him since I last saw him play.

O'Mahoney on the other hand was the opposite of O'Donnell. He missed a good few tackles around rucks, and easy tackles at that (although there was at least one tough tackle he made a good attempt.) There was no decisive running play from him, which is fair enough, it often takes a young 7 some time to get to that level of play, especially with an inexperienced 9 (although the young fella who came on for Williams was a lot better.) There was one piece of play that took Munster from the half way line to inside the 22, all through the forwards, and I would have thought that O'Mahoney would eat that up. But he was very poor, straggling around rucks and providing neither support for the running man, clear ball for the scrum half, or as I would have imagined the best option for a 7, standing off and offering himself. Although again, those moves happened extremely quickly, and if given a few more games he could get up to speed.

The thing that most annoyed me about his play wasn't the mistakes, it was the deliberate stuff. There was a series of scrums on the Munster 5, the first collapsed, re-scrum, the second collapsed, re-scrum, the third was being wheeled, but the scrum half and O'Mahoney should have had that covered, especially as it was wheeling to the side Munster's defence was stacked up on. O'Mahoney decided to jump down the middle of the scrum and collapse it, obviously from a lack of faith in himself or the rest of the team, which I thought was way off. And he was very lucky the ref missed it, especially as he had just moved to the other side. The other thing that pissed me off was after a scrum there was a free kick given to Leicester. Instead of standing on the line and watching for the quick one, as I'm sure everyone has been thought to do since they were 10, he decided it was his job to congratulate every forward in the move. Fair enough, a bit of encouragement is fine when you've just won the ball, but not when the opposition are about to take a quick tap five yards from your own try line.

All in all, O'Donnell had his head screwed on, and looked in those 40 minutes like one of the best forwards out there. If he continues at this pace, I'd see him doing well in the Magner's games this season. O'Mahoney was the opposite, he didn't look ready. But that's what these matches are for, I just hope he gets it together quickly.



The POM fan club have unfortunately put POM up on a pedestal. Yes he has potential but he is not ready yet and he and his fans will have to be patient. Pleased to see a positive report on tommy O'Donnell. I was beginning to feel that he might also have been over hyped two or three years back as he didn't make the breakthrough last year, mixing the good and the bad. But the big question is whether he is ready to play No 7?




To be honest, I think that's most of it with POM. Especially as his fans on here are so f**king bullish. He's only 21, so he has a long way to go yet both f

Cathal
22nd-August-2010, 22:53
[QUOTE=Buceph] [QUOTE=dropkick]How did POM, TOD and Butler play?

O'Donnell was the best of them by far. O'Mahoney looked dire. Butler played alright but I was more concentrating on the 7s battle, as it looks like it's going to be good.


O'Donnell let nothing through, made a couple of saving tackles off a scrum going backwards, easily contained the 10 channel allowing Warwick to move outside and keep check on Leicester's much faster ball. And he covered for Duncan Williams a fair bit. He also made a few breaks from nothing, which I was impressed by, and was what I was hearing about him for a while. Having watched him he always seemed quality in defence and always seems to play with aggression, but he hadn't brought the level of attacking play I'd heard about to the Magner's games so far, like he seemed a bit daunted. The impression I got was he was doing too much in previous matches and fla'ed himself out. He seems to have gotten a much better rugby brain on him since I last saw him play.

O'Mahoney on the other hand was the opposite of O'Donnell. He missed a good few tackles around rucks, and easy tackles at that (although there was at least one tough tackle he made a good attempt.) There was no decisive running play from him, which is fair enough, it often takes a young 7 some time to get to that level of play, especially with an inexperienced 9 (although the young fella who came on for Williams was a lot better.) There was one piece of play that took Munster from the half way line to inside the 22, all through the forwards, and I would have thought that O'Mahoney would eat that up. But he was very poor, straggling around rucks and providing neither support for the running man, clear ball for the scrum half, or as I would have imagined the best option for a 7, standing off and offering himself. Although again, those moves happened extremely quickly, and if given a few more games he could get up to speed.

The thing that most annoyed me about his play wasn't the mistakes, it was the deliberate stuff. There was a series of scrums on the Munster 5, the first collapsed, re-scrum, the second collapsed, re-scrum, the third was being wheeled, but the scrum half and O'Mahoney should have had that covered, especially as it was wheeling to the side Munster's defence was stacked up on. O'Mahoney decided to jump down the middle of the scrum and collapse it, obviously from a lack of faith in himself or the rest of the team, which I thought was way off. And he was very lucky the ref missed it, especially as he had just moved to the other side. The other thing that pissed me off was after a scrum there was a free kick given to Leicester. Instead of standing on the line and watching for the quick one, as I'm sure everyone has been thought to do since they were 10, he decided it was his job to congratulate every forward in the move. Fair enough, a bit of encouragement is fine when you've just won the ball, but not when the opposition are about to take a quick tap five yards from your own try line.

All in all, O'Donnell had his head screwed on, and looked in those 40 minutes like one of the best forwards out there. If he continues at this pace, I'd see him doing well in the Magner's games this season. O'Mahoney was the opposite, he didn't look ready. But that's what these matches are for, I just hope he gets it together quickly.



The POM fan club have unfortunately put POM up on a pedestal. Yes he has potential but he is not ready yet and he and his fans will have to be patient. Pleased to see a positive report on tommy O'Donnell. I was beginning to feel that he might also have been over hyped two or three years back as he didn't make the breakthrough last year, mixing the good and the bad. But the big question is whether he is ready to play No 7?




To be honest, I think that's most of it with POM. Especially as his fans on here are so f**king bullish. He's only 21, so he has a long way

lactose intolerant
22nd-August-2010, 23:04
miiiiiaaaaaooowwww

lactose intolerant
22nd-August-2010, 23:11
<div style="font-size: 10pt ! important; color: rgb(0, 0, 0) ! important; font-family: verdana,arial,tahoma,helvetica,sans-serif ! important;">It was about 10 min into the second half that O'Mahony was brought on I think. Leamy had gone off andhad a great game with some good carries after a slow start. TheLeicester backrow had a go at O'Mahoney when he came on and he levelled one of them. Leicester upped their game through the forwards and were inside the Munster 22 for about a quarter of an hour and were kept scoreless, they had their first 15 on at that stage</font>. Munster could have sneaked it at the end, probably should have. </div>





Would be good if at some stage of the IRFU's plan we got to see a Munster first 15 lining out for a pre season freindly.

or for a Magners match for that matter

Buceph
23rd-August-2010, 00:16
Cheers Cathal, you said it much more concisely and politely than I would have.






<div style="font-size: 10pt ! important; color: rgb(0, 0, 0) ! important; font-family: verdana,arial,tahoma,helvetica,sans-serif ! important;">It was about 10 min into the second half that O'Mahony was brought on I think. Leamy had gone off andhad a great game with some good carries after a slow start. TheLeicester backrow had a go at O'Mahoney when he came on and he levelled one of them. Leicester upped their game through the forwards and were inside the Munster 22 for about a quarter of an hour and were kept scoreless, they had their first 15 on at that stage</font>. Munster could have sneaked it at the end, probably should have. </div>





Would be good if at some stage of the IRFU's plan we got to see a Munster first 15 lining out for a pre season freindly.

or for a Magners match for that matter


For one thing, I think we'll see a lot of Leamy this year. He'll be given as much game time as he can manage I'd say. And to see him on Friday was a big indicator of what's to come.

As for seeing the first 15, the limit the IRFU put on the players is even stricter this year. But even still I think it could be managed. The problem to a lesser extent is whether the Munster management want to put out the first 15, say in a match just before the HEC games. They could have managed it (bar injuries) a couple of times last year, even with the IRFU constraints, it's just that they decided to spread when the 1st 15 were getting their games over a couple of matches, instead of putting them all together. I don't know what the reasoning for it is, but there must be some, because it wasn't an accident. Maybe they feel the younger players will get more benefit from playing in a mixed level team over playing entirely with their peers, then watching the HEC team play for a match. Or maybe mixing the teams up means people have to work harder and up their levels. Either way, they must have a reason, because it's certainly not an accident that it worked that way.

Pluto
23rd-August-2010, 06:17
Was at the match and a lovely evening.


Hard to make any real judgements as it was a Leicester full squad against our young guys.


A few disappointing performances; Williams was poor and an awful passer and young Archer has a bit to go! Scrum was mullered, and hard to see anyone of the youngsters putting the hand up!! O'Donnell was useful and Leamy looked hungry. Dave Ryan looked good when he came on.


One play summed up the night. A penalty near the end was kicked to touch, we won the lineout and ended 25 yards further back.


Hard to see at this early stage where the new O'connells, Hayes and Wally's are coming from. Hard to judge the backs as the got crap ball.


Did well in the end to stay within 4 points!!