New Shannon Pavilion

[JoeyFantastic]

Stolen from Colongemike on archiseek.com

Shannon RFU Pavilion

(08211) Permission granted 17th February 2009

Demolish existing pavilion within the grounds of Thomond Park and to construct a proposed pavilion facility to
include sports hall, gymnasium, sports injury treatment area, changing and shower room areas and reception
rooms with bar amenities and associated site works.

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[Bosco]

looks weak smileys/lol.gif

[McCloud]

Planning granted! Good stuff. Looking forward to when it's completed, will be another iconic land mark in Limericksmileys/biggrin.gif

[JoeyFantastic]

Good to see more facilities being built. What's the timescale on it
McCloud?

[Jenta]

Shannon show true colours with use of Audi TT in front elevation.

Looks like it'll be a nice gaff though, they'll get it relatively cheap now too since builders are willing to work for bread and water.

[McCloud]

Good to see more facilities being built. What's the timescale on it
McCloud?



No idea to be honest, the planning process slowed things up.

[Corker]

Originally was expected to be finished in time for TP re-opening iirc, but must be at least 12 months behind schedule now.


- that must be Peter Stringers old car is it in the front elevation ?

[No.8]

Originally was expected to be finished in time for TP re-opening iirc, but must be at least 12 months behind schedule now.


- that must be Peter Stringers old car is it in the front elevation ?





can we get the All Blacks back for the opening?

[Patman]

Shannon show true colours with use of Audi TT in front elevation.



Well spotted! smileys/lol.gif

[Lightblue]

Will the rent paid to the branch increase in line with the increased value of the clubhouse? Or will SRFC and UL Bohs continue to sponge?

[abbeyboatman]

Oh yes, and we would Buy a Car from "Yorkie Volkwagen"!!!!!!smileys/biggrin.gif


OK McCloud, seems we will be feeding a mixer for the Summer....I want a left handled Shovel!

[sparks]

Good to see more facilities being built. What's the timescale on it
McCloud?



No idea to be honest, the planning process slowed things up.

Slowed it right up. Hope they get it upsmileys/lol.gif asap!

[Canterbury]

Oh yes, and we would Buy a Car from "Yorkie Volkwagen"!!!!!!smileys/biggrin.gif</font>


OK McCloud, seems we will be feeding a mixer for the Summer....I want a left handled Shovel!</font>
Heard Yorkie Motors are in trouble... Good to see Shannon getting the go ahead, hopefully ye might get Locky off our backs and we can progress at Richmonds...

Will the rent paid to the branch increase in line with the increased value of the clubhouse? Or will SRFC and UL Bohs continue to sponge?

How to win friends and infuence peoplesmileys/lol.gif

[Lightblue]

Will the rent paid to the branch increase in line with the increased value of the clubhouse? Or will SRFC and UL Bohs continue to sponge?

How to win friends and infuence peoplesmileys/lol.gif



Not interested in winning friends or influencing people, just asked a straight question. No straight answer yet.


As for so called Yorkie Motors. If I was a SRFC member I'd be concerned about the financial future of one of their main backers.

Will the rent paid to the branch increase in line with the increased value of the clubhouse? Or will SRFC and UL Bohs continue to sponge?

How to win friends and infuence peoplesmileys/lol.gif



Not interested in winning friends or influencing people</span>, just asked a straight question. No straight answer yet.


As for so called Yorkie Motors. If I was a SRFC member I'd be concerned about the financial future of one of their main backers.

Clearly smileys/biggrin.gif (It's the title of a book btw).

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/images/how-to-win-friends-and-influence-people.png

I'll leave the rest of this to Shannon or Ul Bohs people to answer.

[Troy Man]

I'd be more worried about Munster Branch's refusal to release the pitch to eith UL Bohs or Shannon, not much point in either haveinga new bar/pavillion if the only get to see it every time Munster Play.

[Lightblue]

I'd be more worried about Munster Branch's refusal to release the pitch to eith UL Bohs or Shannon, not much point in either haveinga new bar/pavillion if the only get to see it every time Munster Play.


AFAIK all clubs are/were entitled to use Thomond Park twice per season. However the stadium is now owned and operated by Thomond Park Stadium Ltd, a seperate entity to the Munster Branch. I'd be surprised to see SRFC or ULB play there regularly given the magnificent facilities that they have developed in Coonagh and Annacotty.Previously MB picked up the tab for pitch maintenance, can't see the new company being so generous.

[A7X07]

I thought it was 4 matches they where entitled too??

[Ovalball]

Originally was expected to be finished in time for TP re-opening iirc, but must be at least 12 months behind schedule now.


- that must be Peter Stringers old car is it in the front elevation ?





I dont think the Audi TT was invented the last time he played for Shannon!

[Point]

Is there any truth in the rumour that the current Shannon toilets are a listed structure and have to be incorporated in the new building ? smileys/shock.gif

[beanflick]

Will the rent paid to the branch increase in line with the increased value of the clubhouse? Or will SRFC and UL Bohs continue to sponge?
Squatters out is what i say. Shannon have rode the munster gravy train for long enough. OUT OUT OUT OUT !!!smileys/lol.gifsmileys/lol.gifsmileys/lol.gif

[Jenta]

Will the rent paid to the branch increase in line with the increased value of the clubhouse? Or will SRFC and UL Bohs continue to sponge?

Sponge? The logic of a bitter Garryowen fan.

Whelan and the rest of your shower failed, get over it.

[Lightblue]

Will the rent paid to the branch increase in line with the increased value of the clubhouse? Or will SRFC and UL Bohs continue to sponge?

Sponge? The logic of a bitter Garryowen fan.

Whelan and the rest of your shower failed, get over it.



Would this be the Whelan who was voted Limerick Person of the Year for his contribution to Limerick rugby?


Please do explain how he and "the rest of your shower failed", I am intrigued.

[Jenta]

Would this be the Whelan who was voted Limerick Person of the Year for his contribution to Limerick rugby?


Please do explain how he and "the rest of your shower failed", I am intrigued.

Funny that, I'm from Limerick and I didn't vote for him, I wasn't given the chance to vote for anyone actually.

He tried to have my club removed from Thomond Park during the development, going so far as to force Bohs into lodging a late planning objection hoping the public reaction would cause them to cave. Obviously given our lovely new bar this didn't work, thus my reference to failure. But you probably knew all that already.

Now you can fire ahead and explain just how you come to the conclusion that clubs who have been tenants in a stadium for 70 years suddenly become spongers.

[Lebowski]

Will the rent paid to the branch increase in line with the increased value of the clubhouse? Or will SRFC and UL Bohs continue to sponge?

Sponge? The logic of a bitter Garryowen fan.

Whelan and the rest of your shower failed, get over it.



Was he not originally an Old Cresent man?

[Jenta]

Possibly? I've always associated him with Garryowen anyway.

[Lightblue]

Would this be the Whelan who was voted Limerick Person of the Year for his contribution to Limerick rugby?


Please do explain how he and "the rest of your shower failed", I am intrigued.




Funny that, I'm from Limerick and I didn't vote for him, I wasn't given the chance to vote for anyone actually.

He tried to have my club removed from Thomond Park during the development, going so far as to force Bohs into lodging a late planning objection hoping the public reaction would cause them to cave. Obviously given our lovely new bar this didn't work, thus my reference to failure. But you probably knew all that already. Wasn't aware of this, hard luck Pa.

Now you can fire ahead and explain just how you come to the conclusion that clubs who have been tenants in a stadium for 70 years suddenly become spongers.



SRFC &amp; ULB haven't suddenly become spongers, ye've always been spongers. While the other clubs developed grounds and facilities Podge and Rodge sucked resources from the MB. Only recently have SRFC "developed" Coonagh, the place is a bog. ULB can't play AIL at Annacotty because of access, so either rely on TP on ye're new best friends in UL and bum their pitch off them. As they say in The Bill, you've got previous.

[JoeyFantastic]

Would this be the Whelan who was voted Limerick Person of the
Year for his contribution to Limerick rugby?


Please do explain how he and "the rest of your shower failed", I
am intrigued.


Funny that, I'm from Limerick and I didn't vote for him, I
wasn't given the chance to vote for anyone actually. He tried to have
my club removed from Thomond Park during the development, going
so far as to force Bohs into lodging a late planning objection hoping
the public reaction would cause them to cave. Obviously given our
lovely new bar this didn't work, thus my reference to failure. But you
probably knew all that already. Wasn't aware of
this, hard luck Pa.</font>Now you can fire ahead and explain just
how you come to the conclusion that clubs who have been tenants in
a stadium for 70 years suddenly become spongers.


SRFC & ULB haven't suddenly become spongers, ye've always
been spongers.* While the other clubs developed grounds and
facilities Podge and Rodge sucked resources from the MB.* Only
recently have SRFC "developed" Coonagh, the place is a bog.* ULB
can't play AIL at Annacotty because of access, so either rely on TP
on ye're new best friends in UL and bum their pitch off them.* As they
say in The Bill, you've got previous.

Hard to argue with that. What are Shannon doing out in Coonagh
btw?

[Drick]

How have ULB &amp; SRFC sucked resources from the MB?



Are they vampires?



I wouldnt be surprised, tbh.

[peatbog]

Would this be the Whelan who was voted Limerick Person of the Year for his contribution to Limerick rugby?


Please do explain how he and "the rest of your shower failed", I am intrigued.




Funny that, I'm from Limerick and I didn't vote for him, I wasn't given the chance to vote for anyone actually.

He tried to have my club removed from Thomond Park during the development, going so far as to force Bohs into lodging a late planning objection hoping the public reaction would cause them to cave. Obviously given our lovely new bar this didn't work, thus my reference to failure. But you probably knew all that already. Wasn't aware of this, hard luck Pa.

Now you can fire ahead and explain just how you come to the conclusion that clubs who have been tenants in a stadium for 70 years suddenly become spongers.



SRFC &amp; ULB haven't suddenly become spongers, ye've always been spongers. While the other clubs developed grounds and facilities Podge and Rodge sucked resources from the MB. Only recently have SRFC "developed" Coonagh, the place is a bog. ULB can't play AIL at Annacotty because of access, so either rely on TP on ye're new best friends in UL and bum their pitch off them. As they say in The Bill, you've got previous. Garryowen has a clubhouse and eff all else at dooradoyle, Shannon had Athlunkard(granted twas a kip) before Coonagh, and a clubhouse at a different site. So what?

[JoeyFantastic]

How have ULB & SRFC sucked resources from the MB?

Are they vampires?

I wouldnt be surprised, tbh.




Bar receipts that would otherwise go to the MB?

[who?]

Just had a look at the plans, looks a great facility.

What's the internal arena to be used for? Would make a fine sized
function room of nothing else!

[Jenta]

SRFC &amp; ULB haven't suddenly become spongers, ye've always been spongers. While the other clubs developed grounds and facilities Podge and Rodge sucked resources from the MB. Only recently have SRFC "developed" Coonagh, the place is a bog. ULB can't play AIL at Annacotty because of access, so either rely on TP on ye're new best friends in UL and bum their pitch off them. As they say in The Bill, you've got previous.

Not too familiar with the concept of a lease are we? Tenancy? No?

Bohs and Shannon should leave because the stadium which they have been using since the 40s has suddenly become popular and they're now not the only ones bringing people in? Get up the f**king yard.

Explain to me what constitutes 'sucking resources from the MB' btw? They are constituent members of the Munster Branch. It might be costing Munster Rugby some money on matchdays but the bars are outside the turnstiles, so it's f**k all to do with them.

You'd wonder how Bohs or Shannon managed to stay in existence for 70 odd years before the bandwagon got going to start bankrolling them. Miraculous I'd say.

Nice job developing top class facilities out in Dooradoyle btw.

*snigger*

[Lightblue]

Garryowen has a clubhouse and eff all else at dooradoyle,


Eff all heh?1 club house with obligatory changing rooms, bar etc. Full gym, medicine room, full video analysis facilities, 3 pitches,1 floodlit for training, 1 flootlit to IRB match standard, all paid for by the club and it's members. These facilities are regularly used by Munster, call up some day and meet the lads.


Oh, I nearly forgot we also have a fully functional Gael Scoil.


PS. Were SRFC the only Clare based 1st division AIL team when they played in Athlunkard? Parish team me arse.

[Bosco]

pfft! when Young Munster invested in Tom Clifford Park,
they doubled the size of the clubhouse, now thats a club
with its priorites in order




smileys/lol.gif

[peatbog]

Garryowen has a clubhouse and eff all else at dooradoyle,


1 club house with obligatory changing rooms, bar etc. As does Shannon,


Full gym,


medicine room,


full video analysis facilities, For these 3 i'll draw your attention to the first post of this thread.


3 pitches,1 floodlit for training, As does Shannon, well 4 pitches.


1 flootlit to IRB match standard, all paid for by the club and it's members.


These facilities are regularly used by Munster, call up some day and meet the lads. So Munster are Spongers too????


Oh, I nearly forgot we also have a fully functional Gael Scoil.


PS. Were SRFC the only Clare based 1st division AIL team when they played in Athlunkard? Parish team me arse.AIL matches in Thomond Park where Shannon have a lease, are you forgetting the source ofyour ire?


EDIT: Question. Where did Garryowen FC get its name?


Jenta, re your last post, well said.

[Peacock]

Garryowen has a clubhouse and eff all else at dooradoyle,


Eff all heh?1 club house with obligatory changing rooms, bar etc. Full gym, medicine room, full video analysis facilities, 3 pitches,1 floodlit for training, 1 flootlit to IRB match standard, all paid for by the club and it's members. These facilities are regularly used by Munster, call up some day and meet the lads.


Oh, I nearly forgot we also have a fully functional Gael Scoil.


PS. Were SRFC the only Clare based 1st division AIL team when they played in Athlunkard? Parish team me arse.





lightblue, arent jealousy and envy sins? on this ash wednesday you should reflect and be pleased for a club that have put up with so much diatribe from across the city for years and still managed to win ails, cups, charities, i could go but i wont (might upset you too much)oh, sure you have won your fair share and thats to be recognised but i wonder how muchGarryowen would have won ifthey didnt have Shannon players playing with ye for many a decade? just a thought

[abbeyboatman]

Love this....as if all this vitriol, and jealousy is going to change anything.......Hear that sound.....cash clinking in to the Shannon Coffers...roll on the development, and fair play to the astute thinking and planning of all Shannon RFC members past and present.......we might even have room for some Fashion shows in the new Club House....Oh forgot that is the realm of a certain team of NancyBoys!

[McCloud]

Just had a look at the plans, looks a great facility.

What's the internal arena to be used for? Would make a fine sized
function room of nothing else!


They hope to use it for functions as well who?

[Lightblue]

Garryowen has a clubhouse and eff all else at dooradoyle,


1 club house with obligatory changing rooms, bar etc. As does Shannon,


Full gym,


medicine room,


full video analysis facilities, For these 3 i'll draw your attention to the first post of this thread.


3 pitches,1 floodlit for training, As does Shannon, well 4 pitches.


1 flootlit to IRB match standard, all paid for by the club and it's members.


These facilities are regularly used by Munster, call up some day and meet the lads. So Munster are Spongers too???? No they pay a fee for the use of our facilities.


Oh, I nearly forgot we also have a fully functional Gael Scoil.


PS. Were SRFC the only Clare based 1st division AIL team when they played in Athlunkard? Parish team me arse.AIL matches in Thomond Park where Shannon have a lease, are you forgetting the source ofyour ire? Yes, but based in Athlunkard Co.Clare.


EDIT: Question. Where did Garryowen FC get its name? GFC takes its name from the Garryowen, meaning Johns Garden,area of Limerick. The five pointed star represents the five original parishes of Limerick. St Marys, Micheals, Munchins, Patricks and Johns. Prior to this GFC were know as Park Rangers, the founding date was Sep 19 1884 in Cecil St. in what became the Royal Cinema.


Jenta, re your last post, well said. You're entitled to your opinion.

[McCloud]

Would this be the Whelan who was voted Limerick Person of the
Year for his contribution to Limerick rugby?



Please do explain how he and "the rest of your shower failed", I
am intrigued.



Funny that, I'm from Limerick and I didn't vote for him, I
wasn't given the chance to vote for anyone actually. He tried to have
my club removed from Thomond Park during the development, going
so far as to force Bohs into lodging a late planning objection hoping
the public reaction would cause them to cave. Obviously given our
lovely new bar this didn't work, thus my reference to failure. But you
probably knew all that already. Wasn't aware of
this, hard luck Pa.Now you can fire ahead and explain just
how you come to the conclusion that clubs who have been tenants in
a stadium for 70 years suddenly become spongers.



SRFC &amp; ULB haven't suddenly become spongers, ye've always
been spongers. While the other clubs developed grounds and
facilities Podge and Rodge sucked resources from the MB. Only
recently have SRFC "developed" Coonagh, the place is a bog. ULB
can't play AIL at Annacotty because of access, so either rely on TP
on ye're new best friends in UL and bum their pitch off them. As they
say in The Bill, you've got previous.




Hard to argue with that. What are Shannon doing out in Coonagh
btw?


Providing under age facilities to around 500 players. They are also planning to expand the club house, medical room, ladies changing facilities. Also in the pipe line they will be raising the pitches starting this summer with one of them.

[McCloud]

Garryowen has a clubhouse and eff all else at dooradoyle,


Eff all heh?1 club house with obligatory changing rooms, bar etc. Full gym, medicine room, full video analysis facilities, 3 pitches,1 floodlit for training, 1 flootlit to IRB match standard, all paid for by the club and it's members. These facilities are regularly used by Munster, call up some day and meet the lads.


Oh, I nearly forgot we also have a fully functional Gael Scoil.


PS. Were SRFC the only Clare based 1st division AIL team when they played in Athlunkard? Parish team me arse.





Light blue the only person in Ireland never to have heard of grants from the National lottery fundssmileys/lol.gif

[JoeyFantastic]

Would this be the Whelan who was voted Limerick Person of the
Year for his contribution to Limerick rugby?


Please do explain how he and "the rest of your shower failed", I
am intrigued.


Funny that, I'm from Limerick and I didn't vote for him, I
wasn't given the chance to vote for anyone actually. He tried to have
my club removed from Thomond Park during the development, going
so far as to force Bohs into lodging a late planning objection hoping
the public reaction would cause them to cave. Obviously given our
lovely new bar this didn't work, thus my reference to failure. But you
probably knew all that already. Wasn't aware of
this, hard luck Pa.</font>Now you can fire ahead and explain just
how you come to the conclusion that clubs who have been tenants in
a stadium for 70 years suddenly become spongers.


SRFC & ULB haven't suddenly become spongers, ye've always
been spongers.* While the other clubs developed grounds and
facilities Podge and Rodge sucked resources from the MB.* Only
recently have SRFC "developed" Coonagh, the place is a bog.* ULB
can't play AIL at Annacotty because of access, so either rely on TP
on ye're new best friends in UL and bum their pitch off them.* As they
say in The Bill, you've got previous.


Hard to argue with that. What are Shannon doing out in
Coonagh btw?


Providing under age facilities to around 500 players. They are also
planning to expand the club house, medical room, ladies changing
facilities. Also in the pipe line they will be raising the pitches starting
this summer with one of them.

Cheers.

[peatbog]

EDIT: Question. Where did Garryowen FC get its name? GFC takes its name from the Garryowen, meaning Johns Garden,area of Limerick. The five pointed star represents the five original parishes of Limerick. St Marys, Micheals, Munchins, Patricks and Johns. Prior to this GFC were know as Park Rangers, the founding date was Sep 19 1884 in Cecil St. in what became the Royal Cinema.


Jenta, re your last post, well said. You're entitled to your opinion. Do you honestly think there's no sense in Jenta's post?


The questionwas more rhetorical really, but well done on your history. Iwas trying to bring to your attention your swipe at the "Parish team me arse" while praising your beloved Garryowen that are based in .........?

[Lightblue]

Garryowen has a clubhouse and eff all else at dooradoyle,


Eff all heh?1 club house with obligatory changing rooms, bar etc. Full gym, medicine room, full video analysis facilities, 3 pitches,1 floodlit for training, 1 flootlit to IRB match standard, all paid for by the club and it's members. These facilities are regularly used by Munster, call up some day and meet the lads.


Oh, I nearly forgot we also have a fully functional Gael Scoil.


PS. Were SRFC the only Clare based 1st division AIL team when they played in Athlunkard? Parish team me arse.





lightblue, arent jealousy and envy sins? on this ash wednesday you should reflect and be pleased for a club that have put up with so much diatribe from across the city for years and still managed to win ails, cups, charities, i could go but i wont (might upset you too much)oh, sure you have won your fair share and thats to be recognised but i wonder how muchGarryowen would have won ifthey didnt have Shannon players playing with ye for many a decade? just a thought





Sorry to disappoint Peacock but I don't feel jealous or envyous of SRFC. I have many friends in the club from my playing days. SRFC have been the bench mark in Irish domestic rugby for the last 20 years plus. To beat SRFC was to beat the best, one always wants to be the best so one must beat the best. GFC certainly had SRFC players when SRFC were a junior club and those players certainly contributed to our success. But where would SRFC be without Saints, Richmond, Nenagh and a host of other junior clubs. Oh, I forgot SRFC only pick players from the Parish who can trace there origins back to King John. St.Marys are the only Parish club, SRFC were founded in the Shamrock Bar where Pa Healys field is now. Across the Abbey, outside the Parish. Sorry to shatter your illusions.

[Lightblue]

Garryowen has a clubhouse and eff all else at dooradoyle,


Eff all heh?1 club house with obligatory changing rooms, bar etc. Full gym, medicine room, full video analysis facilities, 3 pitches,1 floodlit for training, 1 flootlit to IRB match standard, all paid for by the club and it's members. These facilities are regularly used by Munster, call up some day and meet the lads.


Oh, I nearly forgot we also have a fully functional Gael Scoil.


PS. Were SRFC the only Clare based 1st division AIL team when they played in Athlunkard? Parish team me arse.





Light blue the only person in Ireland never to have heard of grants from the National lottery fundssmileys/lol.gifI think you'll find that National Lottery grants are dependent on a large % of funds being provided by thr recipient. McCloud the only person in Ireland who dosn't understand what a NL grant is.http://www.munsterfans.com/forum/smileys/lol.gif Perhaps you could now use you new found knowledge and educate Abbeyboatman.

[McCloud]

Garryowen has a clubhouse and eff all else at dooradoyle,


Eff all heh?1 club house with obligatory changing rooms, bar etc. Full gym, medicine room, full video analysis facilities, 3 pitches,1 floodlit for training, 1 flootlit to IRB match standard, all paid for by the club and it's members. These facilities are regularly used by Munster, call up some day and meet the lads.


Oh, I nearly forgot we also have a fully functional Gael Scoil.


PS. Were SRFC the only Clare based 1st division AIL team when they played in Athlunkard? Parish team me arse.





Light blue the only person in Ireland never to have heard of grants from the National lottery fundssmileys/lol.gifI think you'll find that National Lottery grants are dependent on a large % of funds being provided by thr recipient. McCloud the only person in Ireland who dosn't understand what a NL grant is.http://www.munsterfans.com/forum/smileys/lol.gif Perhaps you could now use you new found knowledge and educate Abbeyboatman.





Quote"all paid for by the club and it's members"


Garryowen Rugby Football Club €200,000


http://www.irishrugby.ie/6855_12782.php

[Peacock]

Garryowen has a clubhouse and eff all else at dooradoyle,


Eff all heh?1 club house with obligatory changing rooms, bar etc. Full gym, medicine room, full video analysis facilities, 3 pitches,1 floodlit for training, 1 flootlit to IRB match standard, all paid for by the club and it's members. These facilities are regularly used by Munster, call up some day and meet the lads.


Oh, I nearly forgot we also have a fully functional Gael Scoil.


PS. Were SRFC the only Clare based 1st division AIL team when they played in Athlunkard? Parish team me arse.





lightblue, arent jealousy and envy sins? on this ash wednesday you should reflect and be pleased for a club that have put up with so much diatribe from across the city for years and still managed to win ails, cups, charities, i could go but i wont (might upset you too much)oh, sure you have won your fair share and thats to be recognised but i wonder how muchGarryowen would have won ifthey didnt have Shannon players playing with ye for many a decade? just a thought





Sorry to disappoint Peacock but I don't feel jealous or envyous of SRFC.(ill get over it). I have many friends in the club from my playing days. SRFC have been the bench mark in Irish domestic rugby for the last 20 years plus. To beat SRFC was to beat the best, one always wants to be the best so one must beat the best(fair enough). GFC certainly had SRFC players when SRFC were a junior club and those players certainly contributed to our success(yes they certainly did). But where would SRFC be without Saints, Richmond, Nenagh and a host of other junior clubs.(absolutely no argument there) Oh, I forgot SRFC only pick players from the Parish who can trace there origins back to King John.(letting yourself down thereI didnt bring up the Parish issue)St.Marys are the only Parish club(true but there was a time when most players where from St Marys Parish not any more i grant you), SRFC were founded in the Shamrock Bar where Pa Healys field is now. Across the Abbey, outside the Parish(yep know all that). Sorry to shatter your illusions.(take it my illusions are not shattered)

[Lightblue]

[QUOTE=peatbog] Garryowen has a clubhouse and eff all else at dooradoyle,


Eff all heh?1 club house with obligatory changing rooms, bar etc. Full gym, medicine room, full video analysis facilities, 3 pitches,1 floodlit for training, 1 flootlit to IRB match standard, all paid for by the club and it's members. These facilities are regularly used by Munster, call up some day and meet the lads.


Oh, I nearly forgot we also have a fully functional Gael Scoil.


PS. Were SRFC the only Clare based 1st division AIL team when they played in Athlunkard? Parish team me arse.





lightblue, arent jealousy and envy sins? on this ash wednesday you should reflect and be pleased for a club that have put up with so much diatribe from across the city for years and still managed to win ails, cups, charities, i could go but i wont (might upset you too much)oh, sure you have won your fair share and thats to be recognised but i wonder how muchGarryowen would have won ifthey didnt have Shannon players playing with ye for many a decade? just a thought





Sorry to disappoint Peacock but I don't feel jealous or envyous of SRFC.(ill get over it). I have many friends in the club from my playing days. SRFC have been the bench mark in Irish domestic rugby for the last 20 years plus. To beat SRFC was to beat the best, one always wants to be the best so one must beat the best(fair enough). GFC certainly had SRFC players when SRFC were a junior club and those players certainly contributed to our success(yes they certainly did). But where would SRFC be without Saints, Richmond, Nenagh and a host of other junior clubs.(absolutely no argument there) Oh, I forgot SRFC only pick players from the Parish who can trace there origins back to King John.(letting yourself down thereI didnt bring up the Parish issue)St.Marys are the only Parish club(true but there was a time when most players where from St Marys Parish not any more i grant you), SRFC were founded in the Shamrock Bar where Pa Healys field is now. Across the Abbey, outside the Parish(yep know all that). Sorry to shatter your illusions.(take it my illusions are not shattered) Peacock, we'll have to meet for a pint some day, I'm sure we'd get on famously. I won't mention my trust fund if you don't mention having to work for a living.

[McCloud]

[QUOTE=peatbog] Garryowen has a clubhouse and eff all else at dooradoyle,


Eff all heh?1 club house with obligatory changing rooms, bar etc. Full gym, medicine room, full video analysis facilities, 3 pitches,1 floodlit for training, 1 flootlit to IRB match standard, all paid for by the club and it's members. These facilities are regularly used by Munster, call up some day and meet the lads.


Oh, I nearly forgot we also have a fully functional Gael Scoil.


PS. Were SRFC the only Clare based 1st division AIL team when they played in Athlunkard? Parish team me arse.





lightblue, arent jealousy and envy sins? on this ash wednesday you should reflect and be pleased for a club that have put up with so much diatribe from across the city for years and still managed to win ails, cups, charities, i could go but i wont (might upset you too much)oh, sure you have won your fair share and thats to be recognised but i wonder how muchGarryowen would have won ifthey didnt have Shannon players playing with ye for many a decade? just a thought





Sorry to disappoint Peacock but I don't feel jealous or envyous of SRFC.(ill get over it). I have many friends in the club from my playing days. SRFC have been the bench mark in Irish domestic rugby for the last 20 years plus. To beat SRFC was to beat the best, one always wants to be the best so one must beat the best(fair enough). GFC certainly had SRFC players when SRFC were a junior club and those players certainly contributed to our success(yes they certainly did). But where would SRFC be without Saints, Richmond, Nenagh and a host of other junior clubs.(absolutely no argument there) Oh, I forgot SRFC only pick players from the Parish who can trace there origins back to King John.(letting yourself down thereI didnt bring up the Parish issue)St.Marys are the only Parish club(true but there was a time when most players where from St Marys Parish not any more i grant you), SRFC were founded in the Shamrock Bar where Pa Healys field is now. Across the Abbey, outside the Parish(yep know all that). Sorry to shatter your illusions.(take it my illusions are not shattered)


Peacock, we'll have to meet for a pint some day, I'm sure we'd get on famously. I won't mention my trust fund if you don't mention having to work for a living.


jaysus have you not noticed the state of the banks and sharessmileys/shock.gif


BTW Peacock may claim to work, don't think anyone has ever provided actual proof of this thoughsmileys/biggrin.gif

[Lightblue]

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[/QUOTE] Peacock, we'll have to meet for a pint some day, I'm sure we'd get on famously. I won't mention my trust fund if you don't mention having to work for a living.[/QUOTE]


jaysus have you not noticed the state of the banks and sharessmileys/shock.gif


BTW Peacock may claim to work, don't think anyone has ever provided actual proof of this thoughsmileys/biggrin.gif


[/QUOTE]


Off shore Old Boy, off shore. BTW enjoy the sparring, ULB crowd either can't face the truth or keeping their heads down. What's the chance of a GFC v SRFC AIL final?

[JoeyFantastic]

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[/QUOTE> Peacock, we'll have to meet for a
pint some day, I'm sure we'd get on famously.* I won't mention my
trust fund if you don't mention having to work for a
living.</font>


jaysus have you not noticed the state of the banks and
sharessmileys/shock.gif


BTW Peacock may claim to work, don't think anyone has ever
provided actual proof of this though


[/QUOTE]


Off shore Old Boy, off shore.* BTW enjoy the sparring, ULB crowd
either can't face the truth or keeping their heads down.* What's the
chance of a GFC v SRFC AIL final?[/QUOTE]

Do Boh's even have a crowd?

[McCloud]

smileys/shock.gifsmileys/lol.gif

[wildRover]

How have ULB &amp; SRFC sucked resources from the MB?

Are they vampires?

I wouldnt be surprised, tbh.




Bar receipts that would otherwise go to the MB?


Your comment is typical of the new age supporter. Long beforenew age supporters like yourselfarrivedon the scenethe only people selling porter in Thomond Park were Shannon and Boh's. The Munster branch didn't have a problem with it back then, not that you would remember.

[wildRover]

PS. Were SRFC the only Clare based 1st division AIL team when they played in Athlunkard? Parish team me arse.





What part of Garryowen is Garryowen rugby club located in. Is it even in Limerick citysmileys/shock.gif

[sparks]

Did Canterbury not make an appearance anywhere in this thread??smileys/lol.gif

[Lightblue]

PS. Were SRFC the only Clare based 1st division AIL team when they played in Athlunkard? Parish team me arse.





What part of Garryowen is Garryowen rugby club located in. Is it even in Limerick citysmileys/shock.gif





Touche. GFC has never claimed to be from or represent a specific area of Limerick, in fairness SRFC have traded on their alleged Parish roots for years. GFC are in Dooradoyle for 50 years this year. Ye're all invited to the party, IF ye dress properly, club colours are accepted.

[Shannon Girl]

Once again Munsterfans shows its outstanding knowledge of all things rugby, thanks for the laugh lads I needed a perk up this morning.

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[Troy Man]

Would this be the Whelan who was voted Limerick Person of the Year for his contribution to Limerick rugby?


Please do explain how he and "the rest of your shower failed", I am intrigued.




Funny that, I'm from Limerick and I didn't vote for him, I wasn't given the chance to vote for anyone actually.

He tried to have my club removed from Thomond Park during the development, going so far as to force Bohs into lodging a late planning objection hoping the public reaction would cause them to cave. Obviously given our lovely new bar this didn't work, thus my reference to failure. But you probably knew all that already. Wasn't aware of this, hard luck Pa.

Now you can fire ahead and explain just how you come to the conclusion that clubs who have been tenants in a stadium for 70 years suddenly become spongers.



SRFC &amp; ULB haven't suddenly become spongers, ye've always been spongers. While the other clubs developed grounds and facilities Podge and Rodge sucked resources from the MB. Only recently have SRFC "developed" Coonagh, the place is a bog. ULB can't play AIL at Annacotty because of access, so either rely on TP on ye're new best friends in UL and bum their pitch off them. As they say in The Bill, you've got previous.





from what I've seen ULB have played all bar one games this year at Annacotty. the one exception being the Derby match againt YM.

[JoeyFantastic]

How have ULB &amp; SRFC sucked resources from the MB?

Are they vampires?

I wouldnt be surprised, tbh.




Bar receipts that would otherwise go to the MB?


Your comment is typical of the new age supporter. Long beforenew age supporters like yourselfarrivedon the scenethe only people selling porter in Thomond Park were Shannon and Boh's. The Munster branch didn't have a problem with it back then, not that you would remember.




I was simply providing an answer as to why they might be considered vampires, cool your jets.

[sparks]

Anyone know anymore about the plans for the clubhouse?
Surely it isnt going to cost as much what with so many builders out of work?!

[McCloud]

Anyone know anymore about the plans for the clubhouse?
Surely it isnt going to cost as much what with so many builders out of work?!



Guess the cost would depend if acontract has been signed already?


Don't know if acontract has been signed though.

[Jenta]

There's not much point in building an expensive new clubhouse in a ground you're never allowed to use.

[wildRover]

There's not much point in building an expensive new clubhouse in a ground you're never allowed to use.





Other than to generate wads of cash.

[sparks]

There's not much point in building an expensive new clubhouse in a ground you're never allowed to use.





Thanks McTash, and the reason we aint using it this season is because they want to the pitch to settle properly or something!

Maybe next season! And plus the fact it does generate cash for shannon!

[Jenta]

There's not much point in building an expensive new clubhouse in a ground you're never allowed to use.





Other than to generate wads of cash.

Then why not just build a bar? With the stadium company acting the complete arse the other aspects of the pavilion, like the gym and various function rooms, would be of more use out in Coonagh.

[RobbieG]

Might help if the back pitch was drained as well, noticed a load of stone laid by the far wall backing on to the Moylish campus, Car/truck parking for the builders?

[munstersranger]

Lads,


This argument is very simple. there is absolutley no two ways about it.. having a bar facility at Thomond Park is a very definite and significant advantage over other clubs... i don't often agree with a garryowen man, being a cookie however, i dont think logically anyone can say that Bohs and Shannon should be benefitting to the tune of Thousands every game and other clubs dont even get the opportunity to do the same. i have no ill feeling toward any club. some of my best friends are Shannon people and i've family who are members of Garryowen so i'm not being bitter, i'm just talking facts about a very real injustice at club level in Limerick rugby.

heard this project has quietly been shelved as the money has dried up.

[McCloud]

heard this project has quietly been shelved as the money has dried up.


Really? That would be a pity. Mind with the planned improvements of the pitches out in Coonagh as wellmoney will be tight.

[lahinch_lass]

I thought Shannon were getting their new clubhouse as a freebie (or very cheaply)for letting the builders use their existing premises as the site office during the TP re-build ?

[Corker]

Folks, neither Lahinch Lass nor Beir Bua are fully factually correct in their suggestions above.


The project <S&#079;NG>is</S&#079;NG> on hold currently. This is for a couple of reasons, the main one being planning permission difficulties, and the other being afinancial shortfall. It was never going to be a freebie or cheapie L_L, but you are right that the builders made a contribution through their rental of the premises.


If you want to get the full story, you'll just have to join Shannon RFC and come along to the AGM in the next couple of weeks

[sparks]

Cant wait for that! If it was cancelled, i think there would
be a lot of members rightly pissed off.

[Clubman]

Great reading lads. Can we have more please?smileys/lol.gif

I drank pints in both Shannon and Bohs over the years and never tasted any bitterness. In fact I even drank pints in Dooradoyle and the Taj and never tasted the bitterness there either. Why is it so katty here then? But no way am I getting in the middle smileys/lol.gif

Reminds me of a local story of two brothers who were doctors and both amateur boxers, settling their differences in the archway between their houses one day. A passing gent with little to do watched with some admiration and then let out a yell - "Gwan Tony" in support of the lighter man. With that, the two of them turned and for the first time saw him and with that, abandoned hostilities themselves and took after the lad to kick the crud out of him. smileys/lol.gif

Isn't that the actual X factor in Munster? The rivalry between the clubs is refocussed on the common enemy and all the ire felt between Snn/G'Owen/Cookie/Crescent or Bohs is redirected in the common cause.

Incidentally, the Tony in the anecdote above, actually was a Garryowen man.

[Cartman]

I thought Shannon were getting their new clubhouse as a freebie (or very cheaply)for letting the builders use their existing premises as the site office during the TP re-build ?





i can confirm that is very not true...

[Lightblue]

If you want to get the full story, you'll just have to join Shannon RFC and come along to the AGM in the next couple of weeks





Corker, if SRFC wasn't in Thomond Park most Munster "fans" wouldn't know where it was, just as most of them wouldn't know where any other club was either.

[glorob]

If you want to get the full story, you'll just have to join Shannon RFC and come along to the AGM in the next couple of weeks





Corker, if SRFC wasn't in Thomond Park most Munster "fans" wouldn't know where it was, just as most of them wouldn't know where any other club was either.





Rubbish.

[Lightblue]

If you want to get the full story, you'll just have to join Shannon RFC and come along to the AGM in the next couple of weeks





Corker, if SRFC wasn't in Thomond Park most Munster "fans" wouldn't know where it was, just as most of them wouldn't know where any other club was either.





Rubbish.





'Fraid not!

Folks, neither Lahinch Lass nor Beir Bua are fully factually correct in their suggestions above.


The project <s&#079;ng>is</s&#079;ng> on hold currently. This is for a couple of reasons, the main one being planning permission difficulties, and the other being afinancial shortfall.

Hi Corker. That was what i meant when using the word 'shelved'. I heard the money had dried up, which is not in the least bit surprising in the current environment.

[munstersranger]

Why are bohs and Shannon allowed in this stadium... i'm following rugby and my club Young Munster all my life... i'll be at UCD on sat along with hundreds of YM men... long before all these gowls even heard of a rugby ball i was watching and playing in great battles between the clubs in Limerick... there was no such thing as Munster when Shannon and Bohs were in Thomond Park and that was grand but now there are 26,000 people flocking into TP for matches and Garryowen and Young Munster and Thomond, Crescent and all the clubs around are left out.... it is a true disgrace of injustice in Limerick rugby!!

[James Lynch]

Why are bohs and Shannon allowed in this stadium... i'm following rugby and my club Young Munster all my life... i'll be at UCD on sat along with hundreds of YM men... long before all these gowls even heard of a rugby ball i was watching and playing in great battles between the clubs in Limerick... there was no such thing as Munster when Shannon and Bohs were in Thomond Park and that was grand but now there are 26,000 people flocking into TP for matches and Garryowen and Young Munster and Thomond, Crescent and all the clubs around are left out.... it is a true disgrace of injustice in Limerick rugby!!

A true disgrace of of injustice in Limerick rugby!!!! Don't make me laugh. The real injustices come when bigger clubs poach players from smaller clubs and nearly destroy them as happened to Bohs in the early years of the AIL when the likes of Garryowen, Young Munster and yes even Shannon could afford to offer more money to players to come play for them. Or how about all the years that Garryowen and the other senior clubs treated Shannon as a feeder club back in the 50's and refused to grant them Senior status because their chance to lure the Shannon players would be diminished, those are real injustices.
Bohs and Shannon have been in Thomond park for years and i'm sure that seeing as the IRFU own the stadium, both the clubs pay rent and some form of upkeep for the field etc.
Otherwise your statement above is all over the place, you have a go at Munster/rugby fans who are younger than you, at Shannon and Bohs and at the New Thomond Park. Was this written while you were drunk by anychance?

[munstersranger]

Why are bohs and Shannon allowed in this stadium... i'm following rugby and my club Young Munster all my life... i'll be at UCD on sat along with hundreds of YM men... long before all these gowls even heard of a rugby ball i was watching and playing in great battles between the clubs in Limerick... there was no such thing as Munster when Shannon and Bohs were in Thomond Park and that was grand but now there are 26,000 people flocking into TP for matches and Garryowen and Young Munster and Thomond, Crescent and all the clubs around are left out.... it is a true disgrace of injustice in Limerick rugby!!




A true disgrace of of injustice in Limerick rugby!!!! Don't make me laugh. The real injustices come when bigger clubs poach players from smaller clubs and nearly destroy them as happened to Bohs in the early years of the AIL when the likes of Garryowen, Young Munster and yes even Shannon could afford to offer more money to players to come play for them. Or how about all the years that Garryowen and the other senior clubs treated Shannon as a feeder club back in the 50's and refused to grant them Senior status because their chance to lure the Shannon players would be diminished, those are real injustices.
Bohs and Shannon have been in Thomond park for years and i'm sure that seeing as the IRFU own the stadium, both the clubs pay rent and some form of upkeep for the field etc.
Otherwise your statement above is all over the place, you have a go at Munster/rugby fans who are younger than you, at Shannon and Bohs and at the New Thomond Park. Was this written while you were drunk by anychance?



well, the worth of your argument doesn't ring true when one considers that when Shannon were a junior club, in the 1940's Young Munster actually bailed them out of financial trouble... name one player from Bohs that made the YM Panel at the early days of the AIL because i can name two Young Munster players that made the Bohs panel.. Christy Neilan and Justin O'Connell. And just because other things seem unfair to you doesn't mean that this particular point (which is the topic of this thread) is fair all of a sudden. it is not up for debate... it is a complete bias toward two clubs.... also, i was not having a go at any Munster supporters, younger than me or otherwise. i was simply stating that all of a sudden 26,000 thirsty mouths are going into the clubhouses of two pubs that belong to two clubs.... stop being a child and discuss something instead of insulting people or resorting to oneupmanship on a topic!!

[James Lynch]

... long before all these gowls even heard of a rugby ball i was watching and playing in great battles between the clubs in Limerick...


Seems to me you're having as go at those supporters younger than you. Its a real superiority complex statement that. It

As for Shannon being a junior club, like i said the reason for them being a junior club for so long was that the Senior clubs at the time would not agree to support their petition to become a senior club so that they could then continue to poach the best Shannon players at the time.

As for the clubhouse situation, Firstly i pointed out that they've been their for years and have benefitted (the bars have anyway) to some extent through the years of Munster Cup finals, to those where the AIL games were selling out, to the more recent Munster glory days in the old Thomond Park, where were your complaints then? Its not either Shannon nor Bohs fault that the stadium was rebuilt and during the building process both clubs suffered from a lack of business. Neither clubhouse gets much business on AIL days because both teams have had to play the majority of their games on their secondary pitches (where neither team has a licenced premises) the past 2 seasons. Both clubs pay rent, surely the other clubs don't have to do that. The Cork clubs not based in Musgrave park could have the same gripe at Dolphin and Sunday's Well. Anyway i wouldn't worry too much about Bohs making money on Munster match days, the crowd they leased the bar to are making about half the money they could be making due to the disastrous way they run that bar.

As for my comment about you being drunk, i apologise it was wrong, but reading your post it was difficult to see where you were going with it, it was like the Washington Sniper taking random shots at whoever entered your crosshairs. It was very difficult to see where exactly your ire is aimed at; Shannon and Bohs, the Branch/IRFU for allowing them be in TP, people who won't be at AIL matches this week, Bandwaggoners, younger supporters or the Thomond park redevelopment group for not building a bar each for garryowen, young munster, old crescent, richmond, thomond, bruff and nenagh in the new stadium.

[munstersranger]

... long before all these gowls even heard of a rugby ball i was watching and playing in great battles between the clubs in Limerick...





Seems to me you're having as go at those supporters younger than you. Its a real superiority complex statement that. It

As for Shannon being a junior club, like i said the reason for them being a junior club for so long was that the Senior clubs at the time would not agree to support their petition to become a senior club so that they could then continue to poach the best Shannon players at the time.

As for the clubhouse situation, Firstly i pointed out that they've been their for years and have benefitted (the bars have anyway) to some extent through the years of Munster Cup finals, to those where the AIL games were selling out, to the more recent Munster glory days in the old Thomond Park, where were your complaints then? Its not either Shannon nor Bohs fault that the stadium was rebuilt and during the building process both clubs suffered from a lack of business. Neither clubhouse gets much business on AIL days because both teams have had to play the majority of their games on their secondary pitches (where neither team has a licenced premises) the past 2 seasons. Both clubs pay rent, surely the other clubs don't have to do that. The Cork clubs not based in Musgrave park could have the same gripe at Dolphin and Sunday's Well. Anyway i wouldn't worry too much about Bohs making money on Munster match days, the crowd they leased the bar to are making about half the money they could be making due to the disastrous way they run that bar.

As for my comment about you being drunk, i apologise it was wrong, but reading your post it was difficult to see where you were going with it, it was like the Washington Sniper taking random shots at whoever entered your crosshairs. It was very difficult to see where exactly your ire is aimed at; Shannon and Bohs, the Branch/IRFU for allowing them be in TP, people who won't be at AIL matches this week, Bandwaggoners, younger supporters or the Thomond park redevelopment group for not building a bar each for garryowen, young munster, old crescent, richmond, thomond, bruff and nenagh in the new stadium.






well James i suppose you have me at a loss. on the face of it i guess that comment does sound condescending.. it was said in the spirit of the 'older generation knows more than you upstarts' which is quite a discredit to the younger Munster men.


James, i'm a product of a different era. our job in those days was to hate our neighbours. we did that but we never actually hated them because we would be working and socialising with them at the same time.


believe it or not, in the height of the AIL, i could see the financial benefit of having a pavillion in Thomond Park while other clubs had to develop their own clubhouses. This is one hundred times greater an increase in these modern times.And by the way, i'm not being bitter as i was one Young Munster man who supported Shannon's senior status as i used to love the banter between Elsie Cowhey nee Horrigan (a real Cookie) and all the Shannon boys down in the swamp.


i guess the generations don't mix but i meant no offence..